From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: `isearch-allow-scroll' - a misnomer and a bad design Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:16:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20110909215255.GD2733@acm.acm> <7002A9DA9A804F0B9F6F251FD3A2B263@us.oracle.com> <20110911103940.GA3246@acm.acm> <3C4B7E318EB04AE4B7DB9FD0E4C67629@us.oracle.com> <20110911173012.GA3088@acm.acm> <20110912093651.GA3249@acm.acm> <20110913142732.GB3081@acm.acm> <7E2EE144B11D413583E1E659CDE15186@us.oracle.com> <8739g0vyuy.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <4E6FF63A.4070604@gmail.com> <2F1337889F394491BA778ACA46799812@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316531833 21654 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2011 15:17:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, acm@muc.de, dan.colascione@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: chad Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 20 17:17:08 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R624J-0006o6-EF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:17:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54878 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R624F-0006oY-MF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:17:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:33896) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6248-0006kV-Lv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:17:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6247-0002ss-CJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:16:56 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:41944) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6247-0002sl-An for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:16:55 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6245-0007RL-K2; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:16:53 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from chad on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:08:35 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144119 Archived-At: > However, when a control character is special in Isearch and you don't > know it, it will bite you. You will type it while in an Isearch, > expecting it to have its usual meaning, and it will do something else > instead. Do you think the usual meaning of C-u is ``exit the modal thing I'm doing now''? Please don't attack straw men. Emacs normally doesn't even have such "modal things" anyway. What it normally has is major modes that are specified in a buffer. It is not good that we are turning Isearch into something of that nature by adding so many commands that are special in it. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/