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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 8890@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#8890: 23.3; message writing slows emacs
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 04:55:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1R2fpN-00018z-JQ@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2zkibr2l1.fsf@pluto.luannocracy.com> (message from Dave Abrahams on Sun, 11 Sep 2011 02:54:34 -0400)

> From: Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com>
> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 02:54:34 -0400
> Cc: 8890@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> I mean to buffer the message until it has been stable for some
> amount of time.

I don't understand the details of the feature you are requesting.
Suppose `message' is being repeatedly called by some Lisp program in
quick succession -- what would you like to be actually displayed? only
the text of final message?  If so, why is that a good idea?  Most
"good" uses of fast echoing display very similar messages, like
"Updating... NN% done", where only the number changes.  It would be a
pity to lose this checkpointing feature, IMO.  So you will probably
say that there should be a variable to be bound to select one behavior
or the other.  But if Lisp code needs to bind a variable to avoid the
flashing of different messages, why not avoid those messages in the
first place?

Your original report says:

  I haven't done actual timings, but I'm finding that I have a *very*
  strong perception that when emacs is writing lots of messages, it
  slows down considerably.

Redisplay always slows down, but on any modern machine displaying only
the echo area should take a few milliseconds at the most, so I'd be
surprised if some real slowdown was involved.  If you can show some
timings, please do, as there could be a bug or misfeature somewhere.

Anyway, can you describe the situation in which you see these flashing
messages?  The only one I can think of is when Emacs starts up and
restores a previous session.  Is that your use case, or did you see
this in other situations?





  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-11  8:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-18 16:45 bug#8890: 23.3; message writing slows emacs Dave Abrahams
2011-09-11  4:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-11  6:54   ` Dave Abrahams
2011-09-11  8:55     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-09-11 10:45       ` Dave Abrahams
2011-09-11 11:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-11 11:30           ` Dave Abrahams
2011-09-11 14:52             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-11 15:58               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-11 16:39                 ` Dave Abrahams
2011-09-16  2:22                   ` Dave Abrahams
2011-09-16  8:54                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-11 14:51         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-16 13:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-16 13:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-16 14:20     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-16 15:11       ` Dave Abrahams
2011-09-17  5:19         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-17  6:23           ` Dave Abrahams
2011-09-17  8:25           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-17  8:29             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-17  9:24               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-17 12:01               ` Juri Linkov
2011-09-17 21:06           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-18  6:50             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-18 13:16               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-21 19:01                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-26 13:20           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-16 15:09     ` Dave Abrahams

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