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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A few Windows build fixes
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 01:17:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1R1AWK-0008Cp-Rn@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvty8prq5a.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Tue, 06 Sep 2011 23:29:01 -0400)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: andrewjmoreton@gmail.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 23:29:01 -0400
> 
> >> We'd want it to have zero impact to the users who don't use cygwin
> >> (and may not even have it installed), of course.
> > They will never see such file names.
> 
> That can be argued (all file names starting with "/" are potential
> Cygwin names).

I was talking about /cygdrive/x/ file names that should be translated
to x:/ and vice versa.  This must be on the C level, AFAIU.

The "mounted" file names, if we want or need to support them, will
have to be looked up in the mount list taken from "mount -m".  But I'm
not sure we need this, as /cygdrive/x/ should be sufficient.  However,
I don't use Cygwin, so maybe I'm missing some important use cases that
do need this.

> But the issue I was referring to is that we want the
> Emacs executable to work even if Cygwin is not available, so either we
> have to re-implement the Cygwin file-name translation (as is partly done
> in cygwin-mount) or we have to dyn-load the Cygwin run-time
> when available.

I don't see how the fact that Cygwin is or isn't installed is related
to implementing the translation, except that "mount -m" will fail if
Cygwin is not installed.  We can use this failure to disable
translation, or we can translate /cygdrive/x/ anyway, because it is
unlikely that a random w32 user will have a real /cygdrive/x/
directory on her disk.

Loading the Cygwin DLL into a native w32 process is impossible, so
that's not an option.

> I thought we still had problems delivering signals to them.

You are right, we don't support sending Posix signals to Cygwin
programs.  But where is that a real problem?  Emacs does know how to
interrupt a subprocess, and the way it does that should work with
Cygwin programs as well, albeit with less flexibility.  After all,
Cygwin programs are just specialized Windows applications.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-07  5:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-28 22:46 A few Windows build fixes Hannu Koivisto
2011-08-29  6:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-29  8:18   ` Hannu Koivisto
2011-08-29 10:05     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-29 12:03       ` Hannu Koivisto
2011-08-29 13:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-29 15:55           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-29 16:11             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-29 15:48     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-29 16:08       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-29 19:48         ` Jan Djärv
2011-08-31  2:42       ` Vijay Lakshminarayanan
2011-08-31  6:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-31 13:17           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-01 17:55             ` Vijay Lakshminarayanan
2011-09-02  0:14               ` Andy Moreton
2011-09-02  7:07                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-02 11:43                   ` Andy Moreton
2011-09-02 12:48                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-02 14:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-02 14:18                       ` Jason Rumney
2011-09-02 14:47                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-02 14:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-02 14:48                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-02 15:48                         ` Vijay Lakshminarayanan
2011-09-02 16:47                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-06  2:49                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-06  4:33                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-06 18:04                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-06 18:26                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-07  3:29                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-07  5:17                                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-09-07 12:50                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-07 16:48                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-08  8:33                                   ` Hannu Koivisto
2011-09-08  8:49                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-09-08  9:06                                       ` Hannu Koivisto
2011-09-02 15:50                 ` Vijay Lakshminarayanan
2011-09-02  2:48               ` Stefan Monnier

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