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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Changing the default for `send-mail-function'
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 12:18:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1Qas2K-0000s1-Tf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3boxl0xay.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org> (message from Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:14:13 +0200)

    As previously discussed, the default value of `send-mail-function' would
    change to `smtpmail-send-it' (on all architectures) after the smtpmail.el
    rework was complete.

The current setting is sendmail-send-it.
That works by calling the system's mailer, which (we can presume)
has already been configured for the sake of other mail programs.

    At least on Windows, the system mailer (Outlook or whatever) is
    normally already configured, and many times by a person other than the
    one who invoked Emacs.  The latter might not know the address or the
    credentials, or both.

This is often the case on GNU/Linux, too.  

When this isn't the case, the user will have to configure mail sending
somehow.  In that case, what advantage is there in configuring mail in
Emacs, rather than doing it at the system level so that every program
or script can send mail?

Is there a way Emacs can determine whether mail sending has been
configured at the system level, and if not, ask the user
to do so either in Emacs (with smtpmail) or else at system level
(and use sendmail-send-it)?

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
  Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-06-26 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 201+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-26  9:14 Changing the default for `send-mail-function' Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 10:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-26 10:56   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 11:32     ` Reiner Steib
2011-06-26 11:38       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 12:45         ` Reiner Steib
2011-06-26 12:53           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-27 14:51         ` Jason Rumney
2011-06-27 20:45         ` Jochen Hein
2011-06-26 12:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-26 13:08       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 13:42         ` Philipp Haselwarter
2011-06-26 17:16         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-26 18:58           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-30  4:15             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-30  8:55               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 18:35         ` Chong Yidong
2011-06-26 19:09           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 19:50             ` Chong Yidong
2011-06-26 20:05               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 20:40                 ` Chong Yidong
2011-06-26 20:44                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 21:07                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 19:54             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 21:20           ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-06-26 21:29             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 21:52               ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-06-26 22:05                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 22:49                   ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-06-26 23:36                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 23:49                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-27  0:57                         ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-06-27  9:36                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-27  2:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-27  3:34                           ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-06-27  4:35                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-27  9:39                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-27 11:04                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-27 11:11                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-27 12:00                             ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-06-27 16:29                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-28  0:03                                 ` Bill Wohler
2011-06-28  5:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-28 15:29                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-28 16:55                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-28 18:47                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-29 20:23                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-28 15:49                                     ` Bill Wohler
2011-06-27  0:03                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 19:49         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-06-26 21:57           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 22:44             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-06-26 23:26               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 23:55                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-06-27  0:00                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-27  1:39                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-06-27  5:59                   ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-27  7:12                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-06-27  8:58                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-26 23:21         ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-26 23:38           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-27 13:06             ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-28 15:26               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-29 10:58                 ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-29 10:58                 ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-29 11:52                   ` Teemu Likonen
2011-06-29 11:59                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 11:59                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-29 13:42                     ` Richard Riley
2011-06-30  0:13                       ` Tim Cross
2011-06-30 16:22                         ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-30 16:34                         ` Andreas Schwab
2011-06-30 21:11                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-27  0:10         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-06-27  1:47         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-27 10:32           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-27 15:54           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-26 13:39       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 17:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-26 18:36           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 20:32         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-06-26 20:37           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 20:40             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-06-27  4:20             ` Tim Cross
2011-06-27  5:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-27 11:07                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-27 15:56                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-28  1:14                   ` Tim Cross
2011-06-28  1:39                     ` Glenn Morris
2011-06-28  2:24                       ` Glenn Morris
2011-06-28 18:11                         ` Chong Yidong
2011-06-27 13:06               ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-30  3:58               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-01  0:18                 ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-01  0:50                   ` chad
2011-07-01 11:40                     ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-01  2:29                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-01 11:40                     ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-01 12:30                       ` Frank Schmitt
2011-07-02  8:11                         ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-02 14:21                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-07-03 12:49                             ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-04  3:27                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-07-04 11:39                                 ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-05  0:53                                   ` Tim Cross
2011-07-05 12:45                                     ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-05 14:11                                       ` Jan Djärv
2011-07-05 21:05                                         ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-05 21:43                                           ` Antoine Levitt
2011-07-05 23:28                                             ` chad
2011-07-06  1:54                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-07-06 14:33                                               ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-06 19:39                                                 ` chad
2011-07-07  0:34                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-07  1:01                                                     ` chad
2011-07-07 16:31                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-07 22:16                                                         ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2011-07-08  0:07                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-07  1:06                                                     ` Tim Cross
2011-07-07  1:19                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-07  1:28                                                         ` chad
2011-07-07 16:31                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-08 23:38                                                             ` chad
2011-07-09 14:38                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-12  3:11                                                                 ` chad
2011-07-07  3:25                                                         ` Tim Cross
2011-07-07 16:31                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-07  7:14                                                       ` Richard Riley
2011-07-07 15:02                                                         ` Tim Cross
2011-07-07 15:17                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-08  0:06                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-08  0:47                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-09  1:50                                                             ` Tim Cross
2011-07-10 12:27                                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-10 22:25                                                                 ` Tim Cross
2011-07-11 12:53                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-11 13:27                                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-11 15:28                                                                     ` Ken Brown
2011-07-11 16:34                                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-11 18:42                                                                         ` Ken Brown
2011-08-02 21:32                                                                         ` Ken Brown
2011-08-02 22:09                                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-03  0:40                                                                             ` Ken Brown
2011-08-03  1:20                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-04 15:24                                                                               ` Ken Brown
2011-08-04 20:15                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-04 21:57                                                                                   ` Ken Brown
2011-08-06  1:56                                                                                     ` Tim Cross
2011-08-06 15:56                                                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-06 17:27                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-06 17:34                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-06 18:33                                                                                         ` Ken Brown
2011-08-06 18:36                                                                                           ` Lennart Borgman
2011-08-06 23:20                                                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-06 23:26                                                                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2011-08-07  0:07                                                                                             ` Tim Cross
2011-08-07  0:28                                                                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-07  1:34                                                                                                 ` Tim Cross
2011-08-06 23:18                                                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-08-07 16:25                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-09-29 15:08                                                                                             ` Ken Brown
2011-10-06 19:41                                                                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-07 13:12                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-09  6:05                                                                                                   ` Tim Cross
2011-08-03  4:17                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-08  0:06                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-09  2:38                                                             ` Tim Cross
2011-07-09 14:38                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-06 14:32                                             ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-07 22:37                                             ` Andreas Rottmann
2011-07-05 14:22                                       ` Per Starbäck
2011-07-05 21:05                                         ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-05 14:24                                       ` Antoine Levitt
2011-07-05 21:05                                         ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-06 11:11                                       ` Richard Riley
2011-07-08  7:56                                       ` Peter Münster
2011-07-08 18:31                                         ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-12 14:41                                           ` Peter Münster
2011-07-05  8:28                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-07-05 21:05                                     ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-06  1:39                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-07-03 17:08                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-04  0:07                             ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-04  2:49                               ` Chong Yidong
2011-06-27 15:08         ` Jason Rumney
2011-06-27 15:34           ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-27 17:10             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-06-27 18:56               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-27 19:54                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-28  0:42                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-06-27 21:03                 ` Chong Yidong
2011-06-28 15:20                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-27 23:03                 ` Richard Stallman
2011-06-27 19:07               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-27 16:17           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-28 14:57             ` Jason Rumney
2011-06-26 16:18 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2011-06-26 18:45   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-26 23:21     ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-06-27 11:25 Andrey Paramonov
2011-06-27 11:38 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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