From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changing the default for `send-mail-function' Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:50:24 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309092653 7757 80.91.229.12 (26 Jun 2011 12:50:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 12:50:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 26 14:50:49 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QaonY-0006mq-OG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:50:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58422 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaonX-0000qj-Vq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:50:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38940) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaonF-0000qP-RF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:50:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaonB-00086r-6k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:50:29 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:32838) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaonB-00086n-5N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:50:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaonA-0000Id-E0; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:50:24 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 26 Jun 2011 12:56:03 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140986 Archived-At: > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 12:56:03 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > If the SMTP server address is to be supplied by the user, then > > send-mail-function should remain set to mailclient-send-it on > > MS-Windows. > > The server address is supplied by the user, just like it is on all other > mail clients (Mail.app, Thunderbird, Outlook, etc). smtpmail.el will > query the user for the SMTP server if it isn't set already. Emacs until now didn't require the user to provide the server address. At least on Windows, the system mailer (Outlook or whatever) is normally already configured, and many times by a person other than the one who invoked Emacs. The latter might not know the address or the credentials, or both. We don't want that to get in the way of an Emacs user who wants to report a bug, for example. So please leave the value mailclient-send-it on Windows. > `mailclient-send-it' pops up the system mailer, and you have to press > "Send" there too, as I understand it? Yes, and also paste the body of the message (Emacs places it in the clipboard). But they don't need to configure Outlook. > I don't think that's a very user-friendly (default) interface. Maybe not, but it won't block a bug report on technicalities.