From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Please don't refer to Emacs as "open source" Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:35:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <010001cc29eb$fc806cb0$f5814610$@cs.ua.edu> <87vcw9ksdd.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <2FE9F619592E8A4382310F62E7F06311013BB1E618CC@MAIL1.ua-net.ua.edu> <878vt4kpbn.fsf@kwarm.red-bean.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1308181223 27498 80.91.229.12 (15 Jun 2011 23:40:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, opensourcesurvey@cs.ua.edu To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 16 01:40:17 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QWzh3-0003Y9-Nk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:40:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46426 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWzh2-0006dy-Ni for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:40:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58654) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWzct-0005rh-AH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:36:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWzcr-00069g-Uq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:35:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:41998) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWzcr-00069V-Ne for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:35:57 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QWzcq-0003jy-Vw; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:35:57 -0400 In-reply-to: <878vt4kpbn.fsf@kwarm.red-bean.com> (message from Karl Fogel on Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:42:20 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140525 Archived-At: Your message is basically right, but one important point needs to be corrected. >Thank you for the comments. Our apologies for not clearly >differentiating the two types of software. In analyzing the results >and reporting the data, we will make sure to take this into >account. For you information, we have sent the survey to other >projects that would fall into the category of Free Software. They are the same thing As sets of software, free software and open source mostly overlap, but they are not the same set. Nearly all open source programs are free software, but exceptions do exist, because some open source licenses do not qualify as free. In addition, when an executable is locked down by hardware so that users cannot install their own version, it is not free. Thus, the executable of Linux in most Android phones is not free, even though its source code is free. Open source does not concern itself with this issue. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/