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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 8545@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#8545: issues with recent doprnt-related changes
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:28:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1QFmoF-0003nE-7o@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DB8DAF8.7070408@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Wed,  27 Apr 2011 20:11:52 -0700)

    No, format_end is already pointing after the object;
    the object's size is format_end - format.  So
    format_end + 1 might not be a valid pointer.

20 years ago,, Emacs allocated an extra byte with a null character
after the end of every string or buffer.  If that is still true
then this pointer actually is valid.

But it doesn't matter anyway, for reasons described below.

    Yes.  A portable C program is not allowed to create a pointer that
    doesn't point to an object,

Our C programs are allowed to create any sort of pointer we want them
to.  ISO has no authority over us.  We are concerned with standards
insofar as they matter in practice for the convenience and reliability
of our software.

Thus, the question that matters to us is whether a construct is going
to cause a problem on the plausibke platforms we will want to support.
That does not include all theoretical ISO C implementations.

    Yes.  To take an extreme example, some architectures can compute
    a pointer only by using a special pointer register, and the register's
    contents are always checked for validity, even if you don't dereference the
    pointer.

They are outside GNU's design range of targets.

    If you assign i = INT_MAX + 1, the resulting behavior is undefined.

The result is INT_MIN.  We don't try to support any theoretical machine
where this would not be so.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-29 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-25  5:46 bug#8545: issues with recent doprnt-related changes Paul Eggert
2011-04-25  9:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-25 13:37   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-26 20:25     ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-27  1:14       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-26  6:02   ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-27 19:34     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-27 23:51       ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-28  1:32         ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-04-28  3:11           ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-28  3:42             ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-04-28  5:06               ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-28  5:15             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-28  5:29               ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-28  6:10                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-28  6:42                   ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-28  7:26                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-28  7:54                       ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-28 11:14                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-29 12:28             ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2011-04-29 19:56               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-29 23:49               ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-30 21:03                 ` Richard Stallman
2011-05-01  5:41                   ` Paul Eggert
2011-05-01 23:59                     ` Richard Stallman
2011-05-02  0:23                       ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]                         ` <E1QH37h-0001yM-HR@fencepost.gnu.org>
2011-05-03 20:24                           ` Paul Eggert
2011-05-01  4:25                 ` Jason Rumney
2011-05-01  5:56                   ` Paul Eggert
2011-05-01  8:12                     ` Jason Rumney
2011-05-01 11:02                       ` Andreas Schwab
2011-04-28  5:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-28  5:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <4DB9146D.2040702@cs.ucla.edu>
     [not found]             ` <E1QFQVO-0004Dq-6o@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]               ` <4DB9E5FF.9020506@cs.ucla.edu>
2011-04-29 11:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-29 14:41                   ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-29 19:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-29 20:32                       ` Paul Eggert
2011-04-30  8:59                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-04  7:28                   ` Paul Eggert
2011-05-04  9:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-04 14:56                       ` Paul Eggert
2011-05-04 14:56                       ` Paul Eggert
2011-05-05 20:36                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-06 13:33                           ` bug#8545: " Stefan Monnier
2011-05-06 13:33                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-06 14:41                             ` Paul Eggert
2011-05-06 14:41                             ` bug#8545: " Paul Eggert
2011-05-06 15:03                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-06 17:13                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-06 19:57                                 ` bug#8545: " Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-06 19:57                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-07  3:18                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-07  7:55                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-07  7:55                                     ` bug#8545: " Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-07  3:18                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-06 17:13                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-06 15:03                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-05 20:36                         ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-05-01 18:19 bug#8601: * 2 -> * 4 typo fix in detect_coding_charset Paul Eggert
2011-05-01 19:06 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-05-01 19:25   ` Paul Eggert
2011-05-06  7:29 ` bug#8601: Merged fixes for 8600, 8601, 8602, and (partially) for 8545 Paul Eggert
2020-09-14 12:37   ` bug#8545: " Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-14 18:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16  2:01       ` Paul Eggert

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