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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Daniel Colascione <dan.colascione@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Unconditional quit on SIGUSR2
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 07:48:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1Q4Aw6-0005Uu-3p@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D90354E.9000704@gmail.com> (message from Daniel Colascione on Mon, 28 Mar 2011 00:14:22 -0700)

> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 00:14:22 -0700
> From: Daniel Colascione <dan.colascione@gmail.com>
> 
> Sometimes Emacs gets stuck in places where quitting is suppressed,
> such as during redisplay.  For most users, the only way to deal with
> this situation is to abruptly terminate Emacs.
> 
> This patch allows users to recover from this situation by sending Emacs
> a SIGUSR2 signal.  When we receive it, we set debug-on-quit to t,
> inhibit-quit to nil, and quit-flag to t.  These operations will force
> Emacs to stop at the next possible opportunity and display a backtrace.
>  From here, users can save their work, and developers can figure out
> what caused the hang.

If the goal is to provide a way for the user to interrupt a stuck
Emacs in a way that allows to save edits or debug Emacs, then users
can already send SIGTERM and developers can already attach a debugger,
and that will achieve the same result.  Why do we need a new machinery
to do something that is already possible via essentially the same
sequence of actions, i.e. type "kill EMACS-PID" at the shell prompt?

Or am I missing something?

Btw, did you actually test the possibility to interrupt a stuck
redisplay using this patch?  I'm asking because I think redisplay
cannot be interrupted like that: it never checks the quit flag, and
for a good reason AFAIK -- you cannot interrupt it at an arbitrary
point without disastrous consequences.  If we want to make redisplay
interruptible, we need to add code to it in strategic places.  Again,
I don't see a need for doing this, unless someone shows a convincing
use case where such a feature would be useful.

Apologies if I missed something obvious, and thanks for working on
this.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-28 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-28  7:14 [PATCH] Unconditional quit on SIGUSR2 Daniel Colascione
2011-03-28 11:48 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-03-28 12:32   ` Julien Danjou
2011-03-28 14:32     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-28 14:49       ` Julien Danjou
2011-03-28 13:38   ` Daniel Colascione
2011-03-28 14:47     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-28 17:23       ` Daniel Colascione
2011-03-28 18:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-28 19:29           ` Daniel Colascione
2011-03-28 19:41             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-28 19:49               ` Daniel Colascione
2011-03-28 19:52                 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-03-28 19:56                   ` Daniel Colascione
2011-03-28 20:06                     ` Lennart Borgman
2011-03-28 20:12                       ` Daniel Colascione
2011-03-28 20:45                         ` Lennart Borgman
2011-03-28 21:13                           ` In praise of font-lock (Was: Re: [PATCH] Unconditional quit on SIGUSR2) Daniel Colascione
2011-03-28 21:27                             ` Lennart Borgman
2011-03-28 20:10                     ` [PATCH] Unconditional quit on SIGUSR2 chad
2011-03-28 22:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-28 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2011-03-28 22:20                     ` chad
2011-03-29 17:55                       ` Daniel Colascione
2011-03-29 18:14                         ` Daniel Colascione
2011-04-25  2:16                         ` Daniel Colascione
2011-04-25  9:23                           ` joakim
2011-04-25  9:33                             ` Daniel Colascione
2011-04-25 13:32                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 18:21                             ` Daniel Colascione
2011-04-25 18:43                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-26 14:47                             ` Richard Stallman
2011-03-29 13:23         ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-29 14:25           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-29 14:47             ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-29 21:37               ` Stefan Monnier

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