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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: tomas@tuxteam.de
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Input method or help feature needed
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 05:41:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1Pr6jN-000806-Qe@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110220082705.GA4092@tomas>

> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:27:05 +0100
> From: tomas@tuxteam.de
> Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>, rms@gnu.org,
> 	emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
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> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 05:41:19PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> > tomas@tuxteam.de writes:
> 
> > > As an additional thought: this won't work for non-English speakers,
> > > right?
> > 
> > I'd think of it like a programming language -- it's nominally "English",
> > but of a rather limited and regular sort.
> 
> Kind of. Still, a non-English speaker is less likely to come up with a
> construct like "DOTLESS", to keep to the example.

I don't understand what you have in mind, specifically.  Unicode
character names are defined in English only.  The only official
translation is into French (http://www.unicode.org/fr/), and even
there many links point back to the English site.  So anyone who looks
for a character by its name in practice must know the English name.

> > Can you think of any mechanism that both completely avoids naming and
> > covers the entire unicode space though?
> 
> You are completely right, that's hard (although this thread is producing
> surprising ideas already). My reply wasn't meant as an objection to the
> method proposed. Rather as a reminder: we're not done with that, and we
> might need a whole bunch of interfaces, complementing each other.

At least one interface that is based on character shapes (rather than
on their names) was mentioned in this thread.  So it doesn't sound
like we forgot something.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-20 10:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-17 19:14 Input method or help feature needed Richard Stallman
2011-02-17 19:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-17 19:52   ` Stephen Berman
2011-02-17 20:24     ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-02-18 10:53       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-18 15:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-18 20:00           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-17 22:05     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-18 21:24     ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-19  7:49       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-19  8:01         ` David Kastrup
2011-02-19  8:37           ` Miles Bader
2011-02-20  0:30           ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-20  0:29         ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-20  3:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-20 21:01             ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-18 21:24   ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-17 19:31 ` Justin Lilly
2011-02-17 19:41 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-02-18 21:24   ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-19  7:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-19  8:18       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-02-19  8:33         ` Miles Bader
2011-03-04  9:10     ` Kevin Rodgers
2011-02-17 20:26 ` Paul Eggert
2011-02-17 22:50 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-02-18  0:09   ` Miles Bader
2011-02-18  5:13     ` Werner LEMBERG
2011-02-18  8:37     ` tomas
2011-02-18  8:41       ` Miles Bader
2011-02-18 11:27         ` Kenichi Handa
2011-02-20  8:27         ` tomas
2011-02-20 10:41           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-02-20 11:16             ` David Kastrup
2011-02-20 21:01             ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-20 21:30               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-21  2:53                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-02-21 22:35                 ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-21  0:59               ` Kenichi Handa
2011-02-21  7:02                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-21  7:47                   ` Kenichi Handa
2011-02-21  8:25                     ` Miles Bader
2011-02-21  8:29                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-21 11:14                       ` Kenichi Handa
2011-02-21 12:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-22  0:55                           ` Kenichi Handa
2011-02-22  1:23                             ` Miles Bader
2011-02-21 22:36                         ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-21 22:36                 ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-18  8:43       ` David Kastrup
2011-02-20  8:30         ` tomas
2011-02-20 10:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-18 21:25   ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-19  7:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-20  0:29       ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-20  7:43         ` James Cloos
2011-02-20 21:01           ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-20 22:45             ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-02-21 22:35               ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-21 22:35               ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-22  6:05                 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-02-22 20:25                   ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-19 19:26     ` James Cloos
2011-02-20 21:00       ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-20 21:33         ` Drew Adams
2011-02-21 22:36           ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-21 22:51             ` Drew Adams
2011-02-22 20:25               ` Richard Stallman
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2011-02-18 10:39 Андрей Парамонов

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