From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Return Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 08:42:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87mxojwu15.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k4jnweng.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d3pdwt1x.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87bp4x37ey.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <874oapwnon.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291815753 25702 80.91.229.12 (8 Dec 2010 13:42:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:42:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 14:42:27 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQKHr-0008Rl-A3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 14:42:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47131 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQKHq-0004QW-OV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 08:42:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53179 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQKHh-0004Q8-SZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 08:42:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PQKHg-0001gL-LD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 08:42:17 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:60308) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PQKHg-0001gH-Jf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 08:42:16 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQKHd-0004a4-22; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 08:42:13 -0500 In-reply-to: <874oapwnon.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (turnbull@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:133535 Archived-At: IIRC rms has recently declared his dislike for CL-style keyword arguments. I don't mind them in things that are very heavyweight anyway, such as setting frame attributes. What I dislike about Common Lisp is introducing them into familiar basic Lisp functions such as `member'. Common Lisp also changes `member' incompatibly to use `eql' as the default comparison function. So you must use a keyword argument to get the existing `member' behavior. -- Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org