From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Merging emacs-23 into trunk Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:38:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: <837hglf61k.fsf@gnu.org> <8362w5f0lx.fsf@gnu.org> <87vd44efm1.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1289457527 4724 80.91.229.12 (11 Nov 2010 06:38:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 06:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 11 07:38:42 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PGQnx-0006GC-0W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 07:38:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52859 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PGQnw-00029o-B9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:38:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45044 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PGQno-00029g-0V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:38:32 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PGQnm-0000qn-UT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:38:31 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:39139) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PGQnm-0000qj-T8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:38:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PGQnl-0002Xa-6D; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 01:38:29 -0500 In-reply-to: <87vd44efm1.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:132538 Archived-At: > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > Cc: Stefan Monnier , > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:52:38 +0900 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > Actually, I'm not cherry-picking > > > > I think you are. From the docs of "bzr merge": > > You of all people whould know better than to trust the Bazaar docs! You of all people should know that in this case Bazaar docs say what the developers meant and faithfully describe what bzr does. (My problem with Bazaar docs is that it doesn't say enough. When it does describe something, the description is usually correct, although it could be misplaced and hard to find.) > There are two different, though closely related, definitions, of > "cherrypicking" in practice. Since this is about Bazaar, I was talking about this meaning, and this meaning alone. > Stefan, who is familiar with both GNU Arch and Darcs, I believe, > correctly perceives Bazaar behavior as a huge regression vs. Arch in > this respect. The issue is not whether this bzr behavior is useful. The issue is whether it is by design and documentation. Stefan thinks he was not cherrypicking, so he believes that the parts of the docs I cited are not applicable to what he did.