From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#7260: 24.0.50; DEL screwed up Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 03:46:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1287819997 28174 80.91.229.12 (23 Oct 2010 07:46:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 07:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7260@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 23 09:46:35 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P9YoD-00051p-Lf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 09:46:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46764 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P9YoD-00025E-3N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 03:46:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46844 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P9Yo5-00024S-UK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 03:46:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P9Yo4-0005Vr-I1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 03:46:25 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:34852) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P9Yo4-0005Vn-GU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 03:46:24 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P9Ynv-0005Fy-ER; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 03:46:15 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:52:05 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:132014 Archived-At: I wasn't present when the discussion to make `C-x C-x' do these things took place, but it seems like the current behaviour conflates to rather different actions -- exchange-point-and-mark, and activate-region. Combining the two actions was very convenient before the recent change to C-d and DEL. The problem has happened to me in fact after C-x C-x, but I suspect it will also happen in other cases. It sounds rather odd to have `C-d' not delete the active region. If you (for instance) Shift-Right an area, and then press `DEL', I think most people would expect the region you've just selected to be deleted. After shift-arrows is a special case when it might be proper for DEL and C-d to delete the region. -- Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org