From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-d deleting region considered harmful Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:12:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87eicrx1ls.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4C94E03D.8090002@gmail.com> <87fwx699pc.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83tylmyclx.fsf@gnu.org> <4C961787.3090907@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284905576 25072 80.91.229.12 (19 Sep 2010 14:12:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 14:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Christoph Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 19 16:12:55 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxKdO-00059y-2Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:12:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55327 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OxKdN-0006jf-CU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:12:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51861 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OxKdG-0006iM-Vi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:12:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxKdD-000128-Pm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:12:42 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:50043) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxKdD-000123-Mj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:12:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxKdD-0007yu-6e; Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:12:39 -0400 In-reply-to: <4C961787.3090907@gmail.com> (message from Christoph on Sun, 19 Sep 2010 08:00:39 -0600) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130486 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 08:00:39 -0600 > From: Christoph > CC: Eli Zaretskii , larsi@gnus.org > > On 9/18/2010 3:18 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> So I just switched off `transient-mark-mode', which is something I > >> suspect most Emacs old-timers will be more comfortable with. > > > > Here's one such old-timer. > > Out of curiosity, from old-timer to new-timer, what advantages does the > traditional Emacs behavior over transient-mark-mode? I use "C-x C-x" _a_lot_ as a kind of one-time bookmark (augmented by "C-u C-SPC" when necessary), to jump quickly between two spots in a buffer. With this paradigm, the region is not really "region", it's just a portion of text between 2 loci of interest. Therefore, it drives my nuts that Emacs paints the text in color each time I type "C-x C-x", because I have no intention of marking the region, I just want to jump. OTOH, I always have C-w or M-w if I want to kill the region. So I have a very good reason _not_ to use transient-mark-mode, and none to use it.