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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: ehud@unix.mvs.co.il
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@m17n.org
Subject: Re: Usage of standard-display-table in MSDOS
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 01:19:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1Or2DP-0005Sr-SE@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201009012333.o81NXrRq016732@beta.mvs.co.il> (ehud@unix.mvs.co.il)

> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 02:33:53 +0300
> From: "Ehud Karni" <ehud@unix.mvs.co.il>
> Cc: handa@m17n.org, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Reply-to: ehud@unix.mvs.co.il
> 
> Problem 1:
> On text terminal the language environment has great influence on the
> use of the display table - characters not it the language - are
> always displayed as ? . So in the "C" locale, all characters > 127
> are displayed as ?.
> In the "he_IL" locale (= ISO-8859-8) characters in the range
> 191-223 and 251-255 are displayed as ?.
> In the "en_GB" locale (= ISO-8859-1) the Hebrew characters (#x5D0-
> #x5EA) are displayed as ?.

The locale affects the value of terminal-coding-system.  Other than
that, it shouldn't affect the issues that are important to you in the
context of what we discuss here.

You can control the value of terminal-coding-system with "C-x RET t",
if what set-locale-environment does is not good enough.  In
particular, I would try using cp862.

> I really must use the "he_IL" because most of the file my users view
> are in ISO-8859-8 and a small part have MSDOS Hebrew (#x80-#x9A), but
> I want to see all the characters (#xB0-#xDF) literally (i.e. when a
> byte in this range is displayed, its 8 bit value should be sent to
> the terminal.

I thought the latest changes by Handa-san were supposed to do this.
Eight-bit-characters sent to the terminal should always produce the
corresponding 8-bit byte values, no matter which
terminal-coding-system is used.  It sounds like you say that didn't
work?

> Problem 2:
> When I use `find-file-literally' to visit a file, the display table is
> mostly ignored, characters in #xA0-B2 are displayed in \OOO form, while
> #xB3-DF are displayed as empty boxes (on X), whatever locale I use.
> This is a change from the behavior of emacs-21.
> Note: This can be controlled by `set-buffer-multibyte t', but then the
> display is sometimes corrupted.

Sounds like display of unibyte characters doesn't work according to
the display table?



  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-02  5:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-23 12:44 Usage of standard-display-table in MSDOS Kenichi Handa
2010-08-24  5:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-24 11:13   ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-24 16:51     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-25 13:04       ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-25 18:09         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-26 15:26           ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-26 16:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-27 13:35               ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-27 16:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-27 10:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-27 11:44   ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-27 14:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-28  4:18       ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-28  7:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-30  2:24           ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-30  3:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-01  3:21             ` Kenichi Handa
2010-09-01  9:20               ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-01 23:33               ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-02  5:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2010-09-02  5:20                 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-09-04 22:54                   ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-06  1:30                     ` Kenichi Handa
2010-09-02 12:32                 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-09-04 23:32                   ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-05  5:30                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-06  5:14                     ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-29 10:16         ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-29 11:21           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-29 11:49             ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-29 13:06               ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-29 13:50                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-29 14:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-07 21:11                 ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-09 11:57                   ` Kenichi Handa

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