From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: base Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:21:13 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20100822120642.GA1794@muc.de> <87bp8uzu9d.fsf@mithlond.arda> <871v9o7dmf.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wrrg5rzg.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87r5ho5gyr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87hbij6hib.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k4nf7ezq.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878w3v7dd2.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83wrrfmljv.fsf@gnu.org> <87d3t75crc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1282735284 2945 80.91.229.12 (25 Aug 2010 11:21:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 25 13:21:22 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OoE2k-0006Ab-BS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:21:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58233 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OoE2j-0004AJ-OT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:21:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55389 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OoE2f-0004A4-Ar for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:21:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OoE2e-0002Xm-AR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:21:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:39150) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OoE2e-0002Xh-4y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:21:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OoE2b-0000c5-JI; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:21:13 -0400 In-reply-to: <87d3t75crc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:129200 Archived-At: > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > Cc: Miles Bader , > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:15:35 +0900 > > Miles exaggerates That is all that I wanted to convey. > But the lack of a teachable mental model is a real problem, > regularly visible on the bazaar list. I'm not sure I understand what is a ``teachable mental model'', and where do you see such a model explained in, e.g., git's or hg's docs. If you can point me to such an explanation, then I could compare that to bzr's docs and see if there are any significant differences. Of course, I don't want to claim that the bzr docs are good; you yourself watched me many times on the Bazaar list complaining about its quality and filing bug reports. So that's not the point; exaggeration is.