From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Selection changes in revno 100822 Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 05:27:58 -0400 Message-ID: References: <834oeyv3ww.fsf@gnu.org> <87mxsqyp98.fsf@stupidchicken.com><83zkwptyij.fsf@gnu.org> <4C66660D.3090603@swipnet.se><83sk2htp82.fsf@gnu.org> <4C66A8C5.4040203@harpegolden.net><83hbixte8c.fsf@gnu.org> <87wrrs276x.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <6ECBD0370E514CF9A796DCE4F366B46F@us.oracle.com> <4C6794ED.50705@swipnet.se> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281864494 15382 80.91.229.12 (15 Aug 2010 09:28:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 09:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 15 11:28:12 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkZVj-0001KZ-Fh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 11:28:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45496 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OkZVi-0002BV-Hb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 05:28:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35931 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OkZVY-0002AZ-Kj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 05:28:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OkZVX-0001Yx-Ch for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 05:28:00 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:48437) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OkZVX-0001Ys-6X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 05:27:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkZVW-0002ih-Lb; Sun, 15 Aug 2010 05:27:58 -0400 In-reply-to: <4C6794ED.50705@swipnet.se> (message from =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= on Sun, 15 Aug 2010 09:19:09 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128730 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 09:19:09 +0200 > From: Jan Djärv > CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii skrev 2010-08-15 08.01: > > > Apparently, the GUI recommendations on X are now that the primary > > selection is used only in conjunction with the mouse, ... > > > Actually it is > "selecting but with no explicit copy should only set PRIMARY, > never CLIPBOARD" > > How text is selected (mouse or keyboard) isn't mentioned. You are right, of course, but I didn't mean to imply anything different. What I meant by "in conjunction with the mouse" refers only to the action that copies or pastes the text, I did not mean the selection process itself. I must say that once mouse-2 is no longer a synonym to "yank" it became a tad harder to explain what one means. Is there a widely accepted term for what mouse-2 does in this context? The spec everybody seem to quote still calls this "paste", so if there's no better term, we will have to get used to saying "paste from PRIMARY", "paste from CLIPBOARD", etc. And, of course, there's the Emacs-specific gripe that only one of them is no a synonym to "yank".