From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:37:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <201003130001.o2D01FFQ003489@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87vdd1yqe4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87eijjzrkd.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <20100317143519.GB4381@muc.de> <22603146-A346-4FC2-8D74-5D6047865C3A@mit.edu> <87r5nf8s7q.fsf@siart.de> <87pr2ygbii.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87tys9180s.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269441467 16495 80.91.229.12 (24 Mar 2010 14:37:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 24 15:37:42 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuRiI-0007Pv-30 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:37:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43523 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NuRiH-0006JB-HZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:37:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NuRiB-0006Iv-VY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:37:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35397 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NuRiB-0006Il-LP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:37:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NuRiA-0000MQ-Jc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:37:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:49344) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NuRiA-0000MM-De for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:37:34 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuRiA-0007UV-3V; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:37:34 -0400 In-reply-to: <87tys9180s.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (message from Miles Bader on Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:04:35 +0900) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122608 Archived-At: _All_ types of visible selection should be the same, including t-m-m (C-SPC + movement) selections, to the greatest extent possible. Having multiple "types" of selection that are sorta-the-same-but-sorta-different is just going to make Emacs harder to use for everybody, and harder to learn for beginners. We have multiple "types" of selection now, which behave differently in regard to DEL. Is there any empirical sign that this makes Emacs harder to use -- for anyone? Or harder to learn -- for anyone?