From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX. Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:30:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87zl2cmufp.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <224s67-o31.ln1@news.eternal-september.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268595077 32468 80.91.229.12 (14 Mar 2010 19:31:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Riley Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 14 20:31:13 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NqtWq-0005VG-Ms for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:31:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40533 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NqtWq-0001DF-6H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:31:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NqtW1-0000nb-KL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:30:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46875 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NqtW1-0000nI-12 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:30:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NqtVy-0004LE-VF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:30:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:57452) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NqtVy-0004L9-Nf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:30:18 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NqtVy-0005Jb-Jq; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:30:18 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Riley on Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:34:35 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121965 Archived-At: Because its in the same position as all other apps on my desktop. Arbitrary positioning of any UI element is silly and the reasons are well documented. In addition it isn't in my face since we tend to read and write left to write so spend more time in the left side of a window. It seems clear that you want to ignore the scroll bar. Are you an experienced Emacs user? Do you ever use the scroll bar in Emacs? Would you be unhappy if you turned it off?