From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: grishka@gmx.de, paul.r.ml@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: redisplay system of emacs
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:21:17 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1NcQBR-000469-Q1@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ock8pb21.fsf@xemacs.org> (stephen@xemacs.org)
> Exactly. This aspect of things is what the term "ecosystem" does not
> recognize, and that's why it is better not to use that term here.
I really am amused by this turn of discussion, because advocates of
copyleft are in precisely the same position. Their *amoral*,
objective analysis of human behavior
This is a paradox -- an appearance of contradiction that comes from
a misunderstanding.
The argument for copyleft comes from taking a moral stance towards the
situation in which many people do not follow our moral ideals. It is
a fact that many people in our field take an amoral stance towards
this issue, and it is important to recognize the facts, but that is
not the same as taking an amoral stance ourselves.
By contrast, if we call our software an "ecosystem", then we take
an amoral stance. That's what we shouldn't do.
Thus, the difference between _our stance_ and our recognition of
_others' stances_ dispels the paradox.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-02 21:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-29 19:48 redisplay system of emacs grischka
2010-01-30 5:39 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-30 9:53 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-30 11:01 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-30 11:08 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-30 11:54 ` Paul R
2010-01-30 13:52 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-30 11:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-30 12:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-30 9:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-30 11:46 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-30 12:11 ` Paul R
2010-01-30 13:26 ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-30 13:42 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-30 13:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-30 13:54 ` Paul R
2010-01-30 15:15 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-30 15:07 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-31 12:41 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-31 16:36 ` grischka
2010-02-01 21:06 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-02 3:32 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-02 21:21 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2010-02-02 21:42 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-03 0:24 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-03 6:45 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-03 13:34 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-03 14:15 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-03 14:18 ` Daniel Colascione
2010-02-04 11:01 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-03 2:48 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-03 12:19 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-02-04 11:00 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-04 11:06 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-02-05 12:44 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-05 18:37 ` grischka
2010-02-03 13:34 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-03 17:26 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-03 17:45 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-03 18:35 ` grischka
2010-02-03 18:36 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-02-03 19:03 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-03 20:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-02-03 20:37 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-04 8:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-04 23:18 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-05 5:46 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-04 11:01 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-04 11:38 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-05 19:08 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-04 12:28 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-28 0:19 alin.s
2010-01-28 4:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-28 9:07 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-28 11:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-28 11:47 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-28 12:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-28 12:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-28 14:10 ` Miles Bader
2010-01-28 15:04 ` alin.s
2010-01-28 22:34 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-29 10:04 ` Paul R
2010-01-29 10:17 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-29 10:23 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-29 10:30 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-29 13:18 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-29 11:03 ` Miles Bader
2010-01-29 11:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-29 15:10 ` Miles Bader
2010-01-29 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-29 10:48 ` Paul R
2010-01-29 11:01 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-29 18:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-29 11:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-29 13:06 ` Paul R
2010-01-29 13:10 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-29 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-29 15:28 ` Chong Yidong
2010-01-29 18:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-29 18:56 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-30 11:46 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-30 12:51 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-30 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-30 19:21 ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-30 21:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-31 9:32 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-31 12:41 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-29 19:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-30 18:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-30 18:39 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-30 10:34 ` Fabian Ezequiel Gallina
2010-01-30 10:52 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-30 21:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-29 13:07 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-28 5:10 ` Ken Hori
2010-01-28 12:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-28 13:41 ` alin.s
2010-01-28 14:50 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-12 8:31 ` alin.s
2010-02-12 12:10 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-02-12 13:41 ` alin.s
2010-02-12 12:49 ` Jan Djärv
2010-02-12 13:30 ` alin.s
2010-02-12 14:25 ` Jan Djärv
2010-02-12 14:37 ` alin.s
2010-02-12 14:53 ` alin.s
2010-02-12 15:11 ` Jan Djärv
2010-02-12 15:31 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-12 15:55 ` Jan Djärv
2010-02-12 16:53 ` alin.s
2010-02-12 18:55 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-14 19:13 ` alin.s
2010-02-17 13:14 ` Chong Yidong
2010-02-23 0:45 ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2010-02-23 3:01 ` David Reitter
2010-02-23 3:34 ` Tom Tromey
2010-02-23 14:31 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-14 19:25 ` alin.s
2010-02-16 16:40 ` Davis Herring
2010-02-16 19:20 ` grischka
2010-02-16 19:55 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-02-17 13:56 ` alin.s
2010-02-16 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-16 20:56 ` grischka
2010-02-17 4:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
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