From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#936: fixing/disabling the bug news->mail gateway Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:46:43 -0500 Message-ID: References: <873a29lnnz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263483377 22116 80.91.229.12 (14 Jan 2010 15:36:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 936@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 14 16:36:09 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NVRiR-0006gX-SY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:34:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36074 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NVRiS-0002Ps-KM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:34:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NVRU5-0005N1-Vk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:19:42 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NVRU0-0005GR-L4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:19:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39937 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NVRTy-0005F5-RY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:19:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:19946) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NVRTy-0004od-Iw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:19:34 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NVRTx-0001sn-Qi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:19:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NVR3K-0000pR-1Z; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:52:02 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 936 X-Emacs-PR-Package: debbugs.gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 936-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B936.12634806843141 (code B ref 936); Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:52:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 936) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2010 14:51:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NVR2h-0000oc-89 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:51:23 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NVQyF-0000jA-SK for 936@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:46:48 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NVQyB-0003r3-2w; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:46:43 -0500 In-reply-to: <873a29lnnz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (message from Chong Yidong on Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:06:56 -0500) X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:51:22 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -6.6 (------) Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:52:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by mx20.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:34326 Archived-At: > I think it would be acceptable to make the gateway one-way, > mail->news only. I don't think people need to be able to report > bugs via usenet. For those who want to do so, gmane exists. Let's just make it one-way. Maintaining two-way gateways is fine if there's negligible hassle (e.g. help-gnu-emacs), but in this case it's too much trouble. I agree there is no _need_ for people to be able to post bug reports as news. But what would be the practical result of a "one-way gateway" when someone tries to post a bug report as news? Would it mean that his bug report appears as news, and all seems well, but it is never seen on the mailing list? That is not a very good outcome. If the gateway could send him mail to inform him that he has to post via mail, not via news, that would be much better.