From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:01:52 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20091228170401.GA4553@muc.de> <20091231120648.GA2801@muc.de> <4B3CD9A9.9030705@harpegolden.net> <20100103173342.GA1653@muc.de> <87bphbf3zy.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <20100103215647.GC1653@muc.de> <87637i709n.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87ocl9wqjp.fsf_-_@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <201bac3a1001051610t25a1a767v79398943193c3e89@mail.gmail.com> <87iqbexqgi.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <877hrt7z5k.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262992213 30220 80.91.229.12 (8 Jan 2010 23:10:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 23:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jonas@bernoulli.cc, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tassilo Horn Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 09 00:10:05 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NTNy0-0004US-9C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 00:10:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50833 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NTNy0-0002lI-RQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:10:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NTNqB-0004SF-Oi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:01:59 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NTNq6-0004PQ-Q2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:01:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34833 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NTNq6-0004PE-5e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:01:54 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:53919) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NTNq5-0001d6-O4; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:01:53 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NTNq4-00069i-KV; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:01:52 -0500 In-reply-to: <877hrt7z5k.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> (message from Tassilo Horn on Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:56:39 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119741 Archived-At: I think, that such a default setting of the license filter would qualify as 100% free. It is possible that installing Gentoo with this filter setting would not directly install nonfree software -- assuming the developers have not overlooked any. For instance, does their version of Linux include firmware "blobs"? However, merely having an option which avoids nonfree software does not make a distribution something ok to recommend. Most computer users have not learned to value their freedom; if we steer them towards Gentoo we would probably lead them to install nonfree software. See gnu.org/distros for an explanation of this and the rest of our criteria for endorsing distributions.