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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org>
Cc: jonas@bernoulli.cc, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:49:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1NT1AH-00015Q-TP@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87iqbexqgi.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> (message from Tassilo Horn on Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:35:25 +0100)

From what you've said, even with the license filter activated, Gentoo
GNU/Linux will still tantalize users with non-free programs they might
install.  That doesn't seem satisfactory.  Furthermore, use of the
license filter will be optional.  If a person goes look at the Gentoo
site with a view to installing it, unless he is already convinced that
proprietary software is bad, he won't use the license filter.  And
then Gentoo might lead him to install lots of non-free programs.

This is not what I developed GNU for.

    | Gentoo makes it easy to install a number of nonfree programs through
    | their primary package system.
    `----

    Well, that hardly qualifies as an still standing argument.  As soon as
    the new package manager version is stable, it's only a matter of what
    defaults the Gentoo devs choose as acceptable licenses.  I guess, they
    will choose only FSF and OSI approved licenses.

Are you saying that the Gentoo developers might soon delete all the
ports for non-free programs from Gentoo?  That could make it a 100%
free distro, and we might be able to endorse it.  (We would have to
check for blobs in their version of Linux.)

But that sounds too good to be true, so I suspect there is a
misunderstanding of some sort.  Perhaps you mean that the Gentoo
developers will decide not to install the nonfree programs on their
own machines.  That would be the right thing to do, for their own
freedom's sake.  But it would not alter the problem with Gentoo, which
is that it steers users towards nonfree programs.

Nonfree software is an injustice.  The aim of our work is to eliminate
that injustice.  We must never treat nonfree software as a solution,
because that would imply it isn't the problem.





  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-07 22:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-28 17:04 'bzr init-repo .' crashes for lack of module bz2. Help, please! Alan Mackenzie
2009-12-28 21:14 ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-28 23:05 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-12-29 20:08   ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-12-29 20:19     ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-29 20:57       ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-12-29 23:49         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-12-31 12:06           ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-12-31 17:04             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-01-03 17:33               ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-03 18:16                 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-03 21:56                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-04  0:06                     ` Miles Bader
2010-01-04  0:13                       ` Jason Rumney
2010-01-06 13:30                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-04  8:16                     ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-04 16:23                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-04 20:42                         ` Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages (was: 'bzr init-repo .' crashes for lack of module bz2. Help, please!) Tassilo Horn
2010-01-05  9:03                           ` Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages Ulrich Mueller
2010-01-05 20:45                             ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-05 20:45                           ` Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages (was: 'bzr init-repo .' crashes for lack of module bz2. Help, please!) Richard Stallman
2010-01-06  0:10                             ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-06 20:45                               ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-07  8:35                                 ` Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages Tassilo Horn
2010-01-07 22:49                                   ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2010-01-08  0:06                                     ` Marek Aaron Sapota
2010-01-08  9:30                                       ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 11:20                                         ` Marek Aaron Sapota
     [not found]                                         ` <20100108111454.GC1426@fencepost.localnet>
2010-01-08 11:56                                           ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 12:44                                             ` Marek Aaron Sapota
2010-01-08 14:44                                               ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 15:47                                                 ` Marek Aaron Sapota
2010-01-08 15:23                                         ` Yavor Doganov
2010-01-08 15:57                                           ` Marek Aaron Sapota
2010-01-08 16:23                                             ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 16:46                                               ` David Kastrup
2010-01-08  8:56                                     ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 23:01                                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-06  7:35                             ` Tassilo Horn

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