From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Sending attachments Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:05:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87k52rzyn1.fsf@benthic.rattlesnake.com> <873a9fw6dt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87y6r7yp1y.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877hyp3by2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87r5wvdw57.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1246961305 20437 80.91.229.12 (7 Jul 2009 10:08:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:08:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 07 12:08:18 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MO7ay-0000hx-RE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:08:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60180 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MO7ay-0000XJ-61 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:08:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MO7YK-0007MW-60 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:05:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MO7YF-0007JR-Cl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:05:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52301 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MO7YF-0007JB-1b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:05:27 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:49244) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MO7YE-00008f-Jn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:05:26 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MO7YD-0006a6-NB; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:05:25 -0400 In-reply-to: <87r5wvdw57.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (message from Chong Yidong on Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:47:32 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112129 Archived-At: As has been pointed out, message-mode has more features than mail-mode. Even if we wanted to bring mail-mode up to par, that would turn it into something just as complex, If "par" means all the same features, nobody wants to do that. It is not necessary or useful. What I want to do is install Etach. Specifically, the part of Etach that creates mime attachments. This would provide the facility of sending attachments in Mail mode, but without any actual change to sendmail.el. There may be a few other features that it would be nice to provide in Mail mode, and some of them might involve adding some code in that file. But this would not involve anything like the complexity of Message mode. Etach attachment is a modular feature which does not directly interact with the code in sendmail.el. Users could load it or not. message.el forces the loading of many other packages (I sent the list before). So its effective complexity includes all of them. It is tied in with Gnus, and can't be maintained on its own. Mail mode is nice and simple, and I will maintain it myself if you don't want to.