From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3501: 23.0.94; Use Unicode in Info (?) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:42:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <555BAFF565544912A341B5EE3FEE0A7B@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 3501@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1244519857 25971 80.91.229.12 (9 Jun 2009 03:57:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 03:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3501@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 09 05:57:33 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MDsSq-00076T-Ll for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:57:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57526 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MDsSq-0000Ht-0r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:57:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MDsSl-0000HU-BC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:57:27 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MDsSg-0000Bf-77 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:57:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43749 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MDsSf-0000BC-UL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:57:21 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:36857) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MDsSf-0004J1-Bs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:57:21 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n593vJRb007346; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 20:57:19 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n593o5fQ006038; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 20:50:05 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:50:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3501 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3501-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3501.12445189345130 (code B ref 3501); Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:50:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3501) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 9 Jun 2009 03:42:14 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n593gAEA005125 for <3501@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 20:42:11 -0700 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MDsDx-0006BH-PP; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:42:09 -0400 In-reply-to: (drew.adams@oracle.com) X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by rzlab.ucr.edu id n593vJRb007346 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:57:26 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:28570 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 20:23:49 -0700 >=20 > Whatever is already done is not sufficient in this regard, as indicated= in the > original report: I don't see composed characters; I see punctuation in = the > middle of people's names. I see J/orgensen, not J=F8rgensen. Nothing is ``already done'' in the current Emacs. Info files, at least originally, were pure ASCII files by design, because Info readers could not cope with non-ASCII characters. If we want to display such characters as their non-ASCII equivalents, we need to do this in Emacs. Personally, I don't like the idea of Emacs converting Info files for display. At the very least, it destroys the formatting of the text, and at worst makes the text all but unreadable. I think if it's so important to us to have the names in their native scripts, we should simply use UTF-8 in the Texinfo sources and use --enable-encoding when we produce the Info files.