From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3454: when reading the emacs manual sometimes goes to the wrong node Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:11:11 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9fbd0ee10906022240y1175a362wb399675d06ca07ce@mail.gmail.com> <9fbd0ee10906031115k39dc138ej57ebc2972fdc964b@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 3454@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1244167887 16259 80.91.229.12 (5 Jun 2009 02:11:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 02:11:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: zedzap@gmail.com, 3454@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 05 04:11:23 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MCOtu-0008RH-Rx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 04:11:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55775 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MCOtt-0001CB-IL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:11:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MCMSd-0000Fe-VD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:35:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MCMSU-00007J-20 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:34:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48137 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MCMST-0008Ee-7z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:34:53 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:41220) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MCFd2-000583-9s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:17:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n54GHI8a012398; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:17:18 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n54GF7aW011954; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:15:07 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:15:07 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3454 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3454-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3454.124413187611735 (code B ref 3454); Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:15:07 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3454) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 4 Jun 2009 16:11:16 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n54GBCY3011728 for <3454@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:11:13 -0700 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MCFX5-00028C-Kn; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:11:11 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:06:12 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:34:59 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:28496 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: 3454@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Eli Zaretskii > Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:06:12 -0400 > > Actually I think that SPC's behavior in index nodes is wrong. > Basically, SPC currently presumes that info nodes linked by menus form > a tree, and it is mostly true, but not for index menus. Index is just a large menu; it's not easy to distinguish the two, and the decision would be error-prone. We already tried to ``improve'' Info, and I cannot say that the result looks good. I don't see why bother in this case: a human can always know that she is in an index, and not use SPC near the end.