From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: please make line-move-visual nil Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 02:29:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <23521879.post@talk.nabble.com> <7b501d5c0905131659r1d79ec56s5a59f76e4713edf9@mail.gmail.com> <23532135.post@talk.nabble.com> <87tz3odq3l.fsf@iki.fi> <23538683.post@talk.nabble.com> <87eiuru24b.fsf@iki.fi> <39370.130.55.118.19.1242397867.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> Reply-To: ams@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1242541946 9743 80.91.229.12 (17 May 2009 06:32:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 06:32:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tlikonen@iki.fi, garyo@genarts.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: herring@lanl.gov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 17 08:32:18 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M5Zv0-00026Y-8W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 May 2009 08:32:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54891 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M5Zuz-0000nT-KF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 May 2009 02:32:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M5ZsY-0007UW-67 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2009 02:29:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M5ZsS-0007OF-3G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2009 02:29:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60215 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M5ZsR-0007Ns-RT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2009 02:29:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:50048) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M5ZsR-00080b-K8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2009 02:29:39 -0400 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1M5ZsQ-00017D-F0; Sun, 17 May 2009 02:29:38 -0400 In-reply-to: <39370.130.55.118.19.1242397867.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> (herring@lanl.gov) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:110943 Archived-At: > Obviously your logic is valid too. It's just that computer users > tend to navigate visually on the screen-buffer. Machines, such as > Emacs Lisp code, navigates on file-buffer (usually). Perhaps this is too obvious to mention: why not make `next-line' treat `line-move-visual' as nil whenever it is given a prefix argument? It would not be difficult to decorate usage of C-n/C-p// with C-1 in macros that already exist. C-u C-n (and its variants) is a very useful movement command.