From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Font Problem with 23.0.92.1 - wrong font used Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:43:01 +0900 Message-ID: References: <20090407084801.GC5160@metasyntax.net> <20090408050247.GD5160@metasyntax.net> <20090410213806.GH5160@metasyntax.net> <20090413173850.GA30710@metasyntax.net> <20090414031419.GF6280@metasyntax.net> <20090414115004.GH6280@metasyntax.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1239846191 17163 80.91.229.12 (16 Apr 2009 01:43:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Taylor Venable Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 16 03:44:30 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LuGeS-0000AM-AK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:44:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54501 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LuGd3-00070r-NJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:43:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LuGcz-00070g-D6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:42:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LuGcv-0006ve-QF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:42:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51541 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LuGcv-0006vO-Nh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:42:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]:63831) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LuGcu-0005Jf-Tl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:42:53 -0400 Original-Received: from rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.123]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n3G1gnYo019358; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:42:49 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp2.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n3G1gnIq021110; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:42:49 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id n3G1gmfs022577; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:42:48 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LuGd3-00036q-Uu; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:43:01 +0900 In-reply-to: <20090414115004.GH6280@metasyntax.net> (message from Taylor Venable on Tue, 14 Apr 2009 07:50:05 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:110306 Archived-At: I've just installed several fixes. Could you try again? Note that now xft backend can distinguish average-width font property for BDF/PFC fonts. So you should be able to see the different font with these settings. (defvar taylor-misc-fixed-large "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-70-iso10646-1") (defvar taylor-misc-fixed-large "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-80-iso10646-1") --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org In article <20090414115004.GH6280@metasyntax.net>, Taylor Venable writes: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:49:48PM +0900, Kenichi Handa wrote: > > In article <20090414031419.GF6280@metasyntax.net>, Taylor Venable writes: > > > > > > Ummm, weird. Please define this function: > > > > > > > > (defun font-file-at () > > > > (interactive) > > > > (message "%s" (aref (query-font (font-at (point))) 1))) > > > > > > > > and run it while putting cursor on "abc..." of `default', > > > > `mode-line-inactive', and `tooltip' lines in *Faces* buffer > > > > that is shown by M-x list-faces-display RET. > > > > > First, when the Japanese font is present: > > > > > default: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/7x13-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz > > > mode-line-inactive: [the same] > > > tooltip: [the same] > > > > > Strangely enough, the font shown as the example for 'default' is not > > > the font used in the buffer display; again it appears to be the semi- > > > condensed variant, whereas the font used in the buffer display appears > > > to be the correct normal variant. > > > > What is reported when you run font-file-at on a character > > displayed by that normal variant? > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/7x13.pcf.gz > In other words, it seems as if this is the font that should be used > for the 'default' face. > > And, the XLFD of 7x13-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz is: > > -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1 > > Please run this and check if it is the font you mean by > > semicondensed variant? > > > > % xfd -fn -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1 > No, this looks like what I want; in xfontsel it's specified by sWdth = > normal and avgWdth = 70. What I've been calling the "semi-condensed > variant" is specified by sWdth = semicondensed and avgWdth = 60. > However, I can tell by just looking at it that when that font file > name is reported, the font being used is not the one with the XFLD > listed above and in my .emacs file. > > Also please check if the font shown by this is what you mean > > by normal variant: > > > > % xfd -fn -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1 > This is too wide; the font that I've told Emacs to use as the default > has an avgWdth of 70, not 80. > > > If I do M-x customize-face default I notice that the value > > > has been set outside customize, and telling it to set for > > > the current session redisplays the buffer using the semi- > > > condensed face. > > > > > When I run this function on 'bold' I get nil. Finding a face that > > > looks like what I want and see in the buffer display, the function > > > reports the value as /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/7x13.pcf.gz - but > > > the font for the 'bold-italic' face which also looks correct (there is > > > no italic slant variant for the -misc-fixed font I'm using) is > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/8x13B-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz > Is there meaning to the fact that the function returns nil for the > 'bold' face? Or perhaps it's an unrelated issue? > > > ======================================== > > > > > Without the Japanese font in the font path, I get these: > > > > > default: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/7x13.pcf.gz > > > bold: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/8x13B-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz > > > > I still can't reproduce that phenomenon; i.e. the existence > > of Japanese fonts affects the font selection. > This is on OpenBSD so maybe there's something weird in how X is setup; > I'll find a Linux box today to test on and see if there's any similar > or different behaviour there. > Thanks, > -- > Taylor Christopher Venable > http://real.metasyntax.net:2357/