From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Printing Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:15:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: <5f0660120903280331y780c80b7i57a8115dc4b029eb@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1238292962 17704 80.91.229.12 (29 Mar 2009 02:16:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 02:16:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?B?0JDQvdC00YDQtdC5INCf0LDRgNCw0LzQvtC90L7Qsg==?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 29 04:17:20 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LnkaM-0003Da-Gi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:17:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39366 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LnkYz-0004a0-03 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:15:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LnkYu-0004Zq-5T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:15:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LnkYp-0004Zb-Fe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:15:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35094 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LnkYp-0004ZY-AS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:15:43 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:33597) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LnkYp-0004iX-3x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:15:43 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LnkYo-0003qr-WC; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:15:43 -0400 In-reply-to: <5f0660120903280331y780c80b7i57a8115dc4b029eb@mail.gmail.com> (cmr.pent@gmail.com) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:109902 Archived-At: Emacs printing is broken -- and I mean it -- is *fundamentally*, totally broken. You have either to be a PostScript guru, restrict yourself to ASCII characters, or cheat/hack to be able to use Emacs printing. I am sure that is not true. I am not a PostScript guru, but when I use ps-print-buffer, it works fine. This is not to say that there can't be bugs. I see you included some test cases -- thank you for them. I hope people will fix them. b) Use standard GTK+ printing facilities as GEdit and many other applications do. Emacs is built with GTK+ interface for quite some time now, so I suppose there should be no architectural problem in using GTK+ for printing as well. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Sorry, that won't work. Emacs can be built with several display platforms, GTK being just one. Sometimes none is used. I normally use Emacs on a tty and I want printing to work there too.