From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#2196: 23.0.90; rmail not reading email Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:40:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: <2166-Wed04Feb2009142431+0000-jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org, 2196@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233813837 27968 80.91.229.12 (5 Feb 2009 06:03:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:03:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: jpff , 2196@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 05 07:05:05 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LUxME-0000Am-Lu for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:05:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59715 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LUxKv-0001hU-IZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:03:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LUxKq-0001hL-Tq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:03:36 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LUxKp-0001h1-2F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:03:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41819 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LUxKo-0001gr-Rh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:03:34 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:43774) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LUxKo-0002jM-1T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:03:34 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1563V3A014725; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:03:32 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n155o49J011363; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:50:04 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Richard M Stallman Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , Rmail Maintainers Resent-Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:50:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2196 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,rmail X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2196-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2196.123381252710006 (code B ref 2196); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:50:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2196) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 5 Feb 2009 05:42:07 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n155fsJP009997; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:41:55 -0800 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LUwy1-0001ZJ-Rk; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:40:01 -0500 In-reply-to: <2166-Wed04Feb2009142431+0000-jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk> (message from jpff on Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:24:31 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:03:36 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:24963 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:23851 Archived-At: I have just tried to read new mail (g) in rmail mode It appeared to lose the mail -- the external mailbox was cleared but the mail did not appear. I later found it appended to the last message but in a format that is neither one nor the other. I see that some of what you sent us is in Babyl format. That is strange, because as far as I know there is nothing in Rmail now that converts to Babyl format except in some cases `rmail-output', and I don't think that was involved. Was your inbox in Babyl format? If not, can you find out which code tried to convert it to Babyl format? Is it possible you are running an old version of rmail.el?