From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.python-mode,gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta Subject: Re: replacing python.el Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:48:54 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233528683 9093 80.91.229.12 (1 Feb 2009 22:51:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: skip@pobox.com, python-mode@python.org, XEmacs-Beta@xemacs.org, fbe2@comcast.net, barry@python.org, fx@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 01 23:52:36 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LTlB3-0002L6-13 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:52:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55338 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTl9f-0002aM-QU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:51:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTl9I-0002Pp-Fg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:50:44 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTl9H-0002PU-Or for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:50:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45727 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTl9H-0002PO-H1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:50:43 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:50876) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LTl9H-0005qg-2p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:50:43 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LTl7W-0005BA-Kb; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:48:54 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Glenn Morris on Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:00:46 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108536 gmane.emacs.python-mode:231 gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:29286 Archived-At: You've got this backwards. Emacs includes python.el, written by Dave Love, about which there is no legal problem. python-mode.el is the alternative, which has several contributors including Andreas R. This has never been included in Emacs. Please forgive my confusion. I did not remember any of this, so I tried to figure out the situation from the message I was reading. Since neither program includes Andreas' code, it seems there is no legal obstacle to using some or all of python-mode.el in Emacs, except whether Barry can get a disclaimer from the employers he has worked for while writing the code. If it is useful, we could ask a lawyer whether we can get by without some or all of those disclaimers. The lawyer would need to get more detailed information from Barry about various things. It's up to the Emacs maintainers to decide what to do about this. If they think this legal advice is useful, they should ask me to get it.