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From: "Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>
To: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: emanuele.giaquinta@gmail.com, cyd@stupidchicken.com,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	evilborisnet@netscape.net, jasonr@gnu.org
Subject: Re: size of emacs executable after unicode merge
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:39:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1KyQcJ-0007NX-Aw@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Ky3VV-0000R2-FW@etlken.m17n.org> (message from Kenichi Handa on Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:58:37 +0900)

    To my understanding, the portable dumper implemented for
    Emacs relocates Lisp objects to make the dump file (the file
    containing Lisp ojbectes that are reloaded at startup time)
    as small as possible.  That means the garbage data are
    excluded from the dump file.

I see.  You mean a relocating dumper.  Yes, that could help.
But that alone does not guarantee success.

The dumper also needs to dump the non-Lisp memory blocks that
Emacs allocates.  They are scattered among the memory blocks that
contain Lisp objects, and they can't be relocated in this way.
Thus, the total memory size can only be reduced down to the
last non-Lisp memory block.  That is likely to eliminate
most of the benefit.

Perhaps with some other special scheme to segregate Lisp blocks
and non-Lisp blocks into two special heaps, this problem could
be avoided.




  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-07 12:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-14  3:13 size of emacs executable after unicode merge Evil Boris
2008-05-14  3:51 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-14 16:39   ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-14 16:52     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-15 14:18       ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-15 15:29         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-16 11:31           ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-16 12:06             ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-16 12:32             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-05-16 12:55               ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-16 15:59                 ` Thomas Lord
2008-05-16 22:07                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-16 23:01                     ` Thomas Lord
2008-05-17  0:56                 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-05-17  1:52                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-19  1:45                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-30 10:18                   ` Emanuele Giaquinta
2008-10-30 21:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-30 21:42                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-31  3:55                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-10-31  5:29                       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-31  6:32                         ` Chong Yidong
2008-10-31  7:32                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-10-31 10:09                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-31 12:33                               ` gdb error [Re: size of emacs executable after unicode merge] Kenichi Handa
2008-10-31 14:28                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-10-31 12:35                               ` size of emacs executable after unicode merge Stephen Berman
2008-11-21 12:32                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-21 14:18                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-10-31 10:41                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-10-31 15:07                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-10-31 16:44                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-04 23:09                             ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-05  4:17                               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-05 15:50                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-06  7:56                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-08  2:42                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-08  4:10                                       ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-08  9:19                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-09  0:27                                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-09  6:29                                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-09 17:11                                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-10  1:24                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-10  1:55                                                 ` Thomas Lord
2008-11-11  4:37                                                   ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-08 10:30                                       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-09 20:14                                     ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-10  1:59                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-10 15:18                                         ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-10 23:18                                         ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-11 18:17                                         ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-12  6:26                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-13 16:33                                             ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-14  0:48                                               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-27 11:20                                               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-27 16:07                                                 ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-27 16:12                                                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-28  1:02                                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-27 16:31                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-27 20:17                                                 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-11-27 20:42                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-28  1:47                                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-28 15:38                                                     ` Richard M Stallman
2008-11-29  1:52                                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-29 10:47                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-29 19:43                                                         ` Richard M Stallman
2008-11-30  4:50                                                           ` Chetan Pandya
2008-11-28 16:11                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-29  1:47                                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-29 11:13                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-29 12:17                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-29 13:50                                                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-29 15:05                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-05 22:30                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-06 11:58                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-07 12:39                                     ` Richard M. Stallman [this message]
2008-11-07 13:29                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-11-07 21:15                                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-08  4:00                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-11-08  4:19                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-10-31 19:30                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-09 22:43                         ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-09 22:57                           ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-10  1:28                             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-10 19:29                               ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-11-10  1:26                           ` Kenichi Handa

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