From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: An Emacs plug-in for a browser (Firefox?) Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:39:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <18624.40059.414121.633475@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <48C0BB3A.4080201@pajato.com> <87zlmnezy9.fsf@shellarchive.co.uk> <48C0FC53.4020806@gmail.com> <6fa54e4e0809050420i5132ace5red5a011b69ecd1ed@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220809297 28186 80.91.229.12 (7 Sep 2008 17:41:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pmr@pajato.com, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, smeuuh@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, joakim@verona.se, raman@users.sourceforge.net, phil@shellarchive.co.uk To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 07 19:42:32 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KcOHO-0007GO-G9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:42:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52869 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KcOGO-0003B3-Q9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:41:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KcOGK-0003Am-8J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:41:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KcOGJ-0003Aa-QQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:41:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60499 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KcOGJ-0003AX-NL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:41:23 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:36818) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KcOGJ-0003RO-Cv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:41:23 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KcOEc-0005xi-Cl; Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:39:38 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:11:13 -0400) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103633 Archived-At: > I proposed years ago that we extend Emacs to the point where it can > function as a word processor. It never struck me as an interesting goal: for one, we already have latex-mode for that (i.e. Emacs is the only tool I use for word processing, even more so now that I can display the resulting PDF with doc-view-mode), It sounds like you are editing text with markup commands and viewing the formatted results on the side. Of course that works, but most people prefer a word processor in which one edits the formatted text. I proposed adding that capability to Emacs so that it would work in the mode people generally want. It looks like you are proposing a new feature which consists of editing HTML and viewng the formatted results on the side. Is that correct? It did not occur to me that that is what people were talking about, because it doesn't seem like much of an advance. If we want it, the clean and simple implemenation is to run the browser in a separate process. It could do the display in a window provided by Emacs, or in its own window. Perhaps it could render the HTML into PDF and Emacs could display that.