From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#846: Bug in handling invisible text, and bug in Pmail. Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:11:33 -0400 Message-ID: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org, 846@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220250474 1365 80.91.229.12 (1 Sep 2008 06:27:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 06:27:54 +0000 (UTC) To: pmr@pajato.com, emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 01 08:28:48 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ka2u0-00073H-On for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:28:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34039 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ka2t1-0004OE-6h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:27:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ka2sx-0004ND-SH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:27:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ka2sv-0004MG-Ky for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:27:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48148 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ka2sv-0004M6-9Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:27:33 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:60347) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ka2su-0008Qx-SP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:27:33 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m816RUdp007144; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:27:30 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m816K3ww004257; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:20:03 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: "Richard M. Stallman" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:20:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 846 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.12202495922345 (code B ref -1); Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:20:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 1 Sep 2008 06:13:12 +0000 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m816D8kF002338 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:13:09 -0700 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ka2dR-0005GU-3j; Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:11:33 -0400 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:27:34 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:19956 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:22922 Archived-At: In Pmail I had a message that looked like this (I changed his host name for privacy's sake): ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To: rms@gnu.org Subject: sorry that I was distracted with phone calls From: Brand@xyzxysxysbb.com Reply-to: brand@xyzxysxysbb.com Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:46:37 -0700 X-BABYL-V6-ATTRIBUTES: A------ Two other ideas to run past you when time permits. /w ---------------------------------------------------------------------- and I wanted to copy that into an outgoing message. So I typed C-x h M-w, went to *mail* and inserted it. What this inserted appears below. It was quite a surprise. It seems there is a lot of invisible text at the beginning of the buffer, and two different values of point display at the same place on the screen. These places are 934995 and 9351405. (point-min) returns 934995, and that's where M-< moves point to. Typing C-f C-b moves point to 9351405. I gather that those two positions surround the invisible text. I think this is a bug in the command loop's handling of invisible text -- it should not be the case that C-f C-b changes point. I think it is also a bug in Pmail. Pmail should set the buffer boundaries after that text, rather than making it invisible. If Pmail is fixed, then it won't trigger the invisible text bug. But I think it needs to be fixed anyway. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >From Brand@xyzxysxysbb.com Fri Aug 22 01:11:22 2008 X-Coding-System: undecided-unix Return-path: Envelope-to: rms@gnu.org Delivery-date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:11:22 -0400 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:43206) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KWOvi-0001Cl-Jw for rms@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:11:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KWOwz-0000Ti-Nv for rms@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:12:44 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on monty-python X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.1.0 Received: from sh.day.org ([198.102.73.65]:47087) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KWOwz-0000T4-E6 for rms@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:12:41 -0400 X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e Received: from vree.xyzxysxysbb.com (sh.day.org [198.102.73.65]) by sh.day.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18A9EC6988A39 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vree.xyzxysxysbb.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m7M1kbEs004491 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:46:46 -0700 Message-Id: <200808220146.m7M1kbEs004491@vree.xyzxysxysbb.com> To: rms@gnu.org Subject: sorry that I was distracted with phone calls From: Brand@xyzxysxysbb.com Reply-to: brand@xyzxysxysbb.com Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:46:37 -0700 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BABYL-V6-ATTRIBUTES: A------ Two other ideas to run past you when time permits. /w ----------------------------------------------------------------------