From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:14:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20080814083817.GA2593@muc.de> <877iak7xfp.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> <873al79akr.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> <48A5BAD7.8030302@emf.net> <48A740CB.4050404@emf.net> <20080816213508.GA8530@muc.de> <48A78EE4.50802@emf.net> <20080817080126.GB1294@muc.de> <48A86304.3020301@emf.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219040221 7270 80.91.229.12 (18 Aug 2008 06:17:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, ams@gnu.org, hannes@saeurebad.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Thomas Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 18 08:17:53 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KUy3t-0003oQ-09 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:17:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34204 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KUy2v-0005gU-Ht for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:16:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KUy24-00058X-TI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:16:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KUy23-00057G-KJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:15:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42591 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KUy23-00057A-Fz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:15:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:41375) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KUy23-0004dS-Nn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:15:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KUy0n-0005yL-Mm; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:14:41 -0400 In-reply-to: <48A86304.3020301@emf.net> (message from Thomas Lord on Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:42:28 -0700) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102577 Archived-At: If the free and non-free software worlds are regarded as opposing armies, the GNU army's choice is to either inflict a loss on both sides (no dynamic loader -- the defeatist strategy) or afford both sides a possible win (possible free and non-free add-ons). A win for non-free software is ipso facto a loss for our campaign to eliminate non-free software. When the non-free software in question is an add-on for a free program, it tends to pervert the liberating nature and message of that free program; that is another kind of loss for us. These are the potential kinds of harm that I am concerned to avert. Our community develops lots of free software, but which software it develops is a matter of what many people are inspired to do. We cannot count on the community to develop a free equivalent of a nasty Emacs add-on in a short time, not if it is nontrivial.