From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:49:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <10697146.3630221218551689983.JavaMail.www@wwinf4615> <20080812171404.GB7999@muc.de> <20080813092057.GA3010@muc.de> <20080814083817.GA2593@muc.de> <877iak7xfp.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> Reply-To: ams@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218707834 25722 80.91.229.12 (14 Aug 2008 09:57:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Johannes Weiner Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 14 11:58:05 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KTZal-0006Of-5H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:58:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33374 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTZZn-0002cU-Gu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:57:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTZTs-0001PZ-8f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:50:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTZTn-0001OX-R9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:50:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52380 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTZTl-0001O9-Nh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:50:50 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:49504) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KTZTl-0007Da-C5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:50:49 -0400 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KTZSZ-0004Cy-Sd; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:49:35 -0400 In-reply-to: <877iak7xfp.fsf@skyscraper.fehenstaub.lan> (message from Johannes Weiner on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:33:46 +0200) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102435 Archived-At: Freedom should never stand over software quality and usability. Freedom must always stand over software quality and usability, without it we cannot improve the software in question. Primarily, software is problem-solving. If your software comes in a flavor that doesn't restrict user's freedom, this is really nice. It is a prerequisite that software is free to be able to solve problems; if the software is not free, then you cannot solve anything. If you cripple software for freedom's sake, you have driven the purpose of software ad absurdum. Nobody implied that one should cripple software for freedoms sake. Nor did rms argue that it is good to have badly written free software. But it is better to have badly written free software than having well written non-free software. We can fix the former, but not the later.