From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:20:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <21576055.881601218543663926.JavaMail.www@wwinf4605> <873alamgvm.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <000001c8fc9b$234b7fa0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1218659258 26630 80.91.229.12 (13 Aug 2008 20:27:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: alinsoar@voila.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 13 22:28:30 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KTMrd-0002Ad-8Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:22:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54182 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTMqg-0000IZ-Uz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:21:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTMqa-0000FQ-Pa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:21:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTMqZ-0000Dn-E0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:21:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54618 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTMqZ-0000Da-1L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:21:31 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:45148) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KTMqY-0003v3-IS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:21:30 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KTMpO-0005Mg-FD; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:20:18 -0400 In-reply-to: <000001c8fc9b$234b7fa0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> (drew.adams@oracle.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102415 Archived-At: Yes, to the extent that they can use Web clients for this work (and they can, more and more), they could use only their GNU/Linux boxes for that, even if that involves another layer of indirection (e.g. VNC). If the web servers use standard protocols, they should be able to access them with Firefox or Icecat. But they typically don't. Perhaps this also has to do with less support on GNU for the office tools they use to get this work done. Or perhaps it's just ignorance, or perhaps it's bandwidth slowdown (e.g. VNC). I don't know. And perhaps this will change. But today that work is done through Windows. We need to do something to make this change. Since you observe this often, how about if you make a regular practice of suggesting it, and record their responses?