From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:48:28 -0400 Message-ID: References: <570553.73339.qm@web95014.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <200808041755.21849.davi@leals.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217973103 26086 80.91.229.12 (5 Aug 2008 21:51:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, ich@frank-schmitt.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Davi Leal Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 05 23:52:33 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KQUS1-0005xe-Jf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:52:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37108 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQUR6-0008GG-Ck for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:51:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KQUPx-0006rr-6w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:50:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KQUPv-0006pV-IZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:50:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44014 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQUPv-0006pC-6S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:50:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:50438) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KQUPu-0004eQ-NR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:50:07 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KQUOK-0002lz-ND; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:48:28 -0400 In-reply-to: <200808041755.21849.davi@leals.com> (message from Davi Leal on Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:55:21 +0200) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102106 Archived-At: Please, could you confirm such 'computer' does not include network routers and bridges? Whether a router counts as a computer (a programmable device) for the user depends on certain facts (as I've already explained). These may vary from one router to another, and may change in time as the practices change. If the router does functions as a computer for the user, I will say that proprietary software inside it is unethical. If it does not function as a computer for the user, then I will not criticize proprietary software in it. However, it is still a good thing if the software is free. What the GNU GPL requires is a different question. The GNU GPL requirements apply to all distribution of copies. There is no exception for copies included in devices that don't function as computers for the user.