From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:05:00 -0400 Message-ID: References: <570553.73339.qm@web95014.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <20080731093022.GB2886@muc.de> <20080801153128.GB13919@muc.de> <20080802171212.GA2138@muc.de> <20080803175110.GA6025@muc.de> <20080804190830.GB17959@muc.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217923981 17606 80.91.229.12 (5 Aug 2008 08:13:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dhruva@ymail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 05 10:13:49 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KQHfq-0004VV-WE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:13:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55594 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQHev-0002qU-5A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:12:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KQHeb-0002i2-DF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:12:25 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KQHeV-0002dF-T8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:12:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43569 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQHeV-0002dA-LL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:12:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:60835) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KQHeV-0007ob-To for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:12:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KQHXQ-0004dr-VG; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:05:00 -0400 In-reply-to: <20080804190830.GB17959@muc.de> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:08:30 +0000) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102077 Archived-At: OK, let's not quibble about semantic niceties. There are people who will stick to what's convenient, what "the law" tells them. The only way to persuade such people is to show them something convenient or legal. There certainly are people who think that way -- but people's ideas do sometimes change. So we should not give up on that. Aside from that, I'm all in favor of showing those people something convenient or legal. Just as long as this does not obscure our message that software must be free.