From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:33:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <570553.73339.qm@web95014.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <20080731093022.GB2886@muc.de> <20080801153128.GB13919@muc.de> <20080802171212.GA2138@muc.de> <20080803175110.GA6025@muc.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217864093 31508 80.91.229.12 (4 Aug 2008 15:34:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dhruva@ymail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 04 17:35:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KQ25z-0005eY-VM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:35:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47819 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQ254-0007tP-Tc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:34:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KQ24z-0007pf-C7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:34:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KQ24x-0007ly-L4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:34:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51929 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQ24x-0007lb-BB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:34:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:52853) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ24x-0001aO-6m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:34:35 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KQ23y-0006fI-D0; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:33:34 -0400 In-reply-to: <20080803175110.GA6025@muc.de> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:51:10 +0000) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:102040 Archived-At: To be honest, I wouldn't do that either if somebody suggested it to me. But if you did try this, you might then be a bit more sympathetic to those who percieve that type of software to be modern, efficient, and OK. I sympathize fully with appreciation of convenient software. What I refuse to sympathize with is the failure to appreciate freedom even more. I see my task, miniscule though my personal contribution might be, to be to make freedom convenient. Several of my colleagues over the years have told me they don't care about software freedom, they want the tools which get their job done best. You can't argue with that, Yes we can. We have done so for 25 years and we will continue to do so. it's consistent and honest. It is foolish and dangerous. I think free software should cater to them, too. We cater to them to the extent it doesn't interfere with more important goals, such as establishing a free society.