From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:24:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807111217m66d6cf4el777c197c107ce034@mail.gmail.com> <87skug6tq5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4eb0089f0807111345h13eccdds9b2cf43370b94074@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807121340x5e26f6dbve03ef50b238f3a3a@mail.gmail.com> <87k5fph5rh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> <20080714195651.GF3445@muc.de> <487C5FA3.4070603@emf.net> <87zloggji9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878wvxxkn6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ej5oz4pb.fsf@saeurebad.de> <87vdyzxype.fsf@saeurebad.de> <871w1njq32.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87iquzxgtk.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884CFEF.8040404@gmail.com> <48861A51.1090401@gmail.com> <4887C77C.2090109@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217035718 13963 80.91.229.12 (26 Jul 2008 01:28:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 26 03:29:27 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KMYb8-0004op-UH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:29:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47834 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMYaF-0004Wz-7B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:28:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KMYWw-0001kE-2a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:25:06 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KMYWu-0001iC-CC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:25:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53169 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMYWu-0001hy-3w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:25:04 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:59549) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KMYWu-0002Ib-2V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:25:04 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KMYW8-0003dU-GB; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:24:16 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:18:44 +0300) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101486 Archived-At: > I see no reason to think such an effect exists. Meanwhile, people > have told me that the fact that Emacs runs on Windows undercut their > ability to insist on running GNU/Linux at work. > > Without some sort of demonstration I decline to believe that this > helps us. Why do you believe the former claims more than you believe the latter? Because those people were telling me about what had happened to them personally. So far nobody has reported seeing that supporting Emacs on Windows helps us; it is just speculation. Let those who claim the former "demonstrate" it first. I think their testimony is sufficient proof that it happened to them. However, I do not know how often this happens.