From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:23:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <87skug6tq5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4eb0089f0807111345h13eccdds9b2cf43370b94074@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807121340x5e26f6dbve03ef50b238f3a3a@mail.gmail.com> <87k5fph5rh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> <20080714195651.GF3445@muc.de> <487C5FA3.4070603@emf.net> <87zloggji9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878wvxxkn6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ej5oz4pb.fsf@saeurebad.de> <87vdyzxype.fsf@saeurebad.de> <871w1njq32.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87iquzxgtk.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884CFEF.8040404@gmail.com> <48861A51.1090401@gmail.com> <4887C77C.2090109@gmail.com> <48890184.40207@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217035497 13531 80.91.229.12 (26 Jul 2008 01:24:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:24:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lord@emf.net, drobinow@gmail.com, hannes@saeurebad.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, acm@muc.de, miles@gnu.org To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 26 03:25:45 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KMYXY-00043l-Mo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:25:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55967 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMYWe-0001U6-QG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:24:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KMYWZ-0001Sm-3l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:24:43 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KMYWY-0001SU-GC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:24:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53156 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMYWY-0001SR-8L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:24:42 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:59510) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KMYWY-0002Fj-7I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:24:42 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KMYVl-0003a8-5b; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:23:53 -0400 In-reply-to: <48890184.40207@gmail.com> (lennart.borgman@gmail.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101481 Archived-At: It might be difficult to demonstrate but what I am thinking is that if more people knows the tools for developing software on/for free system they can contribute on their free time. (And in many cases bring experience with them from non-free systems.) In principle, they can. But do they contribute to things that are generally useful, or only to porting to their systems? One way to look into this question is perhaps to ask people developing software that runs on free systems where they have learned it and if it has been any help to them that these tools also runs on non-free systems. That would be an interesting question to ask in a survey.