From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:35:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200807231817.m6NIHnp31261@f7.net> <4887920D.1070100@emf.net> <877ibb953h.fsf@comm.utoronto.ca> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216964222 24502 80.91.229.12 (25 Jul 2008 05:37:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gilaras Drakeson Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 07:37:51 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KMFzy-0005RZ-Gx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:37:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46322 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMFz4-00011X-IX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:36:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KMFyG-0000QF-2h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:36:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KMFyE-0000Oi-7C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:36:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46468 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMFyD-0000OO-Vy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:36:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:56027) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KMFyD-0000Oa-QG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:36:01 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KMFxT-0005bM-F6; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:35:15 -0400 In-reply-to: <877ibb953h.fsf@comm.utoronto.ca> (message from Gilaras Drakeson on Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:19:30 -0400) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101448 Archived-At: the build system is a vital component in the software distribution (and it is even more crucial for free software). Yet it is in the sad state that we have today. I think the main reason our configuration and build methods are so clumsy is that they were designed to run on lots of different systems using only the programs we could expect to be available on them.