From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:05:28 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ej5oz4pb.fsf@saeurebad.de> <87vdyzxype.fsf@saeurebad.de> <871w1njq32.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87iquzxgtk.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884CFEF.8040404@gmail.com> <48861A51.1090401@gmail.com> <20080724080727.GA3448@muc.de> <863alzd1mi.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216937239 28496 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2008 22:07:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lord@emf.net, drobinow@gmail.com, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, hannes@saeurebad.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, acm@muc.de, miles@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 00:08:07 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KM8yc-00023c-4s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:07:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47312 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KM8xi-000843-L5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KM8wz-0007Rf-Rp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:06:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KM8wy-0007Q9-9e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:06:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44070 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KM8wy-0007Q0-41 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:06:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:55102) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KM8wx-0007XQ-NL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:06:15 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KM8wC-0001iQ-IQ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:05:28 -0400 In-reply-to: <863alzd1mi.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:20:53 +0200) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101427 Archived-At: If one can bundle resources by just making one place that is accessible to everyone better, one can achieve quite more. And this place are free operating systems. When there were not any, the GNU project still worked on making the world better in a lot of hostile places. But there is no point to distribute efforts still to places where nobody really needs to be. Very well said. > When I ask myself, is the world better for having Emacs and Firefox > running on Microsoft Windows, the answer is an unequivocal yes - > people who hack on MS-Windows can thus do a better job. But their job does not in general benefit others. So we are creating better opportunities for work that does not help the community. I agree.