From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:24:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <87k5fph5rh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> <20080714195651.GF3445@muc.de> <487C5FA3.4070603@emf.net> <87zloggji9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878wvxxkn6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ej5oz4pb.fsf@saeurebad.de> <87vdyzxype.fsf@saeurebad.de> <871w1njq32.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87iquzxgtk.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884CFEF.8040404@gmail.com> <87ej5nxew2.fsf@saeurebad.de> <87wsje37rg.fsf@saeurebad.de> <871w1li7xy.fsf@saeurebad.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216866333 732 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2008 02:25:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:25:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Johannes Weiner Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 04:26:22 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLqX4-0004qd-Jf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:26:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56273 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLqWB-0007Pi-25 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:25:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLqVr-0007IQ-Pa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:25:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLqVr-0007Hw-1B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:25:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41748 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLqVq-0007Hq-M5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:60628) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLqVq-0007VT-Jn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KLqV7-00082Q-9I; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:24:17 -0400 In-reply-to: <871w1li7xy.fsf@saeurebad.de> (message from Johannes Weiner on Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:40:57 +0200) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101359 Archived-At: You might want to throttle your auto-responder that triggers whenever someone refers to `Linux' without the GNU/ prefix. That is an insulting thing to say. I thought about how to respond to your message, as I always do. I really MEANT the kernel. In that case, you could have made your meaning unambiguous by saying "kernel". Since we were talking about Windows, which is a complete operating system (not a kernel), it was entirely reasonable for me to think you too meant a complete system. Quoting wikipedia: An operating system (commonly abbreviated OS and O/S) is the software component of a computer system that is responsible for the management and coordination of activities and the sharing of the resources of the computer. The operating system acts as a host for application programs that are run on the machine. That is one of the two customary meanings of operating system. The other customary meaning refers to the whole system. Wikipedia ought to mention both, but I cannot fight them over this.