From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:11:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <87k5fph5rh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> <20080714195651.GF3445@muc.de> <487C5FA3.4070603@emf.net> <87zloggji9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878wvxxkn6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ej5oz4pb.fsf@saeurebad.de> <87vdyzxype.fsf@saeurebad.de> <871w1njq32.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87iquzxgtk.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884CFEF.8040404@gmail.com> <87ej5nxew2.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884DA4F.20203@gmail.com> <8763qzxcfd.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884E551.3050304@gmail.com> <86fxq2j1af.fsf@timbral.net> <4885977B.6090700@gnu.org> Reply-To: ams@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216757581 30630 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2008 20:13:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: thorne@timbral.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, jasonr@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 22 22:13:49 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLOF0-0000Gc-Q7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:13:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47486 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLOE6-00066k-Qp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:12:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLOE1-00066N-BJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:12:45 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLODx-000663-HV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:12:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39156 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLODx-000660-Bb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:12:41 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:36043) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLODw-00086O-T4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:12:41 -0400 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KLODE-0003Lw-PF; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:11:56 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:46:14 -0400) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101242 Archived-At: > I do think this idea presents a chicken and egg problem though - the > shell is needed by configure, but will not be available until it has > been built by a bootstrap. The shell could be built before running the configure. And how would that work for every other platform? Really, why not have a shell (say bash) that can be easily installed on Windows (a .exe that you can put somewhere), and whatever other platform. It could be distributed on ftp.gnu.org, like the emacs binaries for windows and other such unfriendly platforms.