From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:29:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807111217m66d6cf4el777c197c107ce034@mail.gmail.com> <87skug6tq5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4eb0089f0807111345h13eccdds9b2cf43370b94074@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807121340x5e26f6dbve03ef50b238f3a3a@mail.gmail.com> <87k5fph5rh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> <20080714195651.GF3445@muc.de> <487C5FA3.4070603@emf.net> <87zloggji9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878wvxxkn6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ej5oz4pb.fsf@saeurebad.de> <87vdyzxype.fsf@saeurebad.de> <871w1njq32.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87iquzxgtk.fsf@saeurebad.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216747820 27549 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2008 17:30:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, lord@emf.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, drobinow@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org To: Johannes Weiner Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 22 19:31:07 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLLhW-0001QE-4n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:31:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35075 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLLgc-0004Xw-Qh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:30:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLLgX-0004XZ-Vx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:30:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLLgW-0004Ww-3k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:30:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58914 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLLgW-0004Wt-1I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:30:00 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:51051) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLLgW-0003Kr-1X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:30:00 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KLLfn-0000IZ-0i; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:29:15 -0400 In-reply-to: <87iquzxgtk.fsf@saeurebad.de> (message from Johannes Weiner on Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:55:35 +0200) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101228 Archived-At: So the more realistic case is that people chose scons or something instead of dropping autotools and writing their own configure script. If we are ever to be able to build whole systems from source in a simple way, our community will have to overcome that erroneous practice.