From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:34:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <87k5fph5rh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> <20080714195651.GF3445@muc.de> <487C5FA3.4070603@emf.net> <87zloggji9.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878wvxxkn6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ej5oz4pb.fsf@saeurebad.de> <87vdyzxype.fsf@saeurebad.de> <871w1njq32.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87iquzxgtk.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884CFEF.8040404@gmail.com> <87ej5nxew2.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884DA4F.20203@gmail.com> <8763qzxcfd.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884E551.3050304@gmail.com> <86fxq2j1af.fsf@timbral.net> <4885977B.6090700@gnu.org> <4885E797.4020409@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216737380 20632 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2008 14:36:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: thorne@timbral.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, jasonr@gnu.org To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 22 16:37:08 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLIyu-0005w2-49 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:36:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42911 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLIy0-0006wF-Ss for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:35:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLIxa-0006k4-EP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:35:26 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLIxZ-0006ji-WA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:35:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55315 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLIxZ-0006jb-Ms for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:35:25 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:50410) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLIxZ-0003tI-2B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:35:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KLIwr-0006MT-KS; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:34:41 -0400 In-reply-to: <4885E797.4020409@gmail.com> (lennart.borgman@gmail.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101204 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:58:47 +0200 > From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" > CC: Jason Rumney , thorne@timbral.net, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > Unfortunately, I think Lennart's idea is not practical: a typical > > configure script exercises many advanced shell features, and so > > crafting a shell that could run it will need to implement most of the > > features we have in Bash. Such a shell will be neither small nor > > portable, because a Posix shell needs quite a few Posix features. > > You might have told me before, but what advanced features are you > thinking of? `fork', for starters. > Perhaps "portable" is much more important than "small". If it is not "small", it will be a large job to write it. Better invest that effort into making a native port of Bash, instead of inventing another wheel.