From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: inputting characters by hexadigit Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:51:10 +0900 Message-ID: References: <868ww3vydn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87myki6fqp.fsf@jurta.org> <87mykhz6tf.fsf@jurta.org> <87tzeokrku.fsf@jurta.org> <87tzeogih6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <488020A4.4060601@harpegolden.net> <873am6rb8k.fsf@jurta.org> <87r69oqojm.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216687911 10323 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2008 00:51:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, tzz@lifelogs.com, david@harpegolden.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 22 02:52:38 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KL67J-0000CV-OQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:52:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51737 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KL66Q-0002xy-Mv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:51:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KL66L-0002uR-Le for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:51:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KL66K-0002sc-P2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:51:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60769 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KL66K-0002sK-KL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:51:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]:53106) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KL66E-0004i1-1x; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:51:30 -0400 Original-Received: from rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.123]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m6M0pQTU006656; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:51:26 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp2.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m6M0pQar016475; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:51:26 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m6M0pBYi001676; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:51:13 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken.m17n.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KL65u-00047G-Tc; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:51:10 +0900 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:46:22 -0400) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/23.0.60 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101145 Archived-At: In article , Stefan Monnier writes: > AFAIK, the main use of C-q is to insert a char by hitting the > corresponding key, handy when that key is bound to something else than > self-insert-command. > So by using chars ? # or \ to mean something else, we get into the > situation where the user might not know how to insert #, ?, or \ when > those keys are bound to non-self-inserting commands. I think this is > a serious problem. One funny idea. How about using C-u (u for Unicode) as this way? C-u 0 x X X X X RET for U+XXXX (and C-0 x X X X X RET) C-u 0 x and C-0 x are noop now. --- Kenichi Handa handa@ni.aist.go.jp