From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: describe-char should display the character's Unicode name Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:29:23 +0900 Message-ID: References: <868ww3vydn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87myki6fqp.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216175397 19931 80.91.229.12 (16 Jul 2008 02:29:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:29:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tzz@lifelogs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 16 04:30:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KIwmv-000408-GA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:30:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37295 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIwm3-0005PA-5B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:29:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KIwly-0005MM-8U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:29:42 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KIwlv-0005Le-JC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:29:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39144 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIwlv-0005Lb-GB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:29:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]:54318) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KIwlu-0007nk-Sj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:29:39 -0400 Original-Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m6G2TW4F022178; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:29:32 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp3.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m6G2TWaB012052; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:29:32 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp3.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id m6G2TNXj026403; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:29:23 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken.m17n.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KIwlf-00036S-7H; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:29:23 +0900 In-reply-to: <87myki6fqp.fsf@jurta.org> (message from Juri Linkov on Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:42:54 +0300) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/23.0.60 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100765 Archived-At: In article <87myki6fqp.fsf@jurta.org>, Juri Linkov writes: > > `describe-char' currently displays the character, but in cases where the > > font is not capable of that, just the codepoint number is not very > > useful for the user. The character's Unicode name would be nice, but > > the user has to customize `describe-char-unidata-list'. At least the > > Unicode name ('name) should be in `describe-char-unidata-list' by > > default. Since `describe-char' is used rarely and the user really wants > > to know about the character, I think this is sensible. It could also be > > used for `what-cursor-position' which is similarly rarely used. > Displaying the full Unicode information was turned off by default, > because licence conditions of the Unicode data file prohibited adding > it to Emacs, so the user had to download the data file and point the > variable to the location of this file to be able to see the full > information from it. > But since now it is available in Emacs without the need to download it, > it makes sense to display its full Unicode information by default. I think displaying all available Unicode informaiton is too much (see the list shown when you customize describe-char-unidata-list). Perhaps, name, general-cateogory, and decompostion are the best for the default of that variable. --- Kenichi Handa handa@ni.aist.go.jp