From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard M Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:38:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: <36366a980807091202rd3b6521jc9fa45d321bc9d37@mail.gmail.com> <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807111217m66d6cf4el777c197c107ce034@mail.gmail.com> <87skug6tq5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4eb0089f0807111345h13eccdds9b2cf43370b94074@mail.gmail.com> <4eb0089f0807121340x5e26f6dbve03ef50b238f3a3a@mail.gmail.com> <87k5fph5rh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080713214648.GB1076@muc.de> <487A783B.7060603@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216057412 8052 80.91.229.12 (14 Jul 2008 17:43:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, cyd@stupidchicken.com, drobinow@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 14 19:44:19 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KIS4y-0002y5-8v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:43:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57936 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIS46-00040K-5S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:42:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KIS0w-0002ra-6L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:39:06 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KIS0u-0002rN-Lg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:39:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47796 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIS0u-0002rK-CM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:39:04 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:48232) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KIS0u-0004xC-Bo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:39:04 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KIS0N-0004k7-Al; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:38:31 -0400 In-reply-to: <487A783B.7060603@gmail.com> (lennart.borgman@gmail.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100693 Archived-At: In that case, should not investigating hardware be something that is done as earlier as possible in the installation process - with a possibility for the user to just back off if the installation process finds hardware it does not recognize. The best time to investigate hardware is before you buy it. So we have fsf.org/resource/hw. (Or maybe it is fsf.org/resources/hw; I can't check from here.) However, your idea seems like a good one. I don't know whether distros have already done this or not, but if they have not, it would be good to suggest this to maintainers.